My DVX trailer

coffee said:
And what makes you think it's his responsibility to do so?
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He doesn't have a responsibility to do anything. Ozan's problem is that the responses he gave did not seem to show the same amount of professionalism as the trailer.

It would be the equivalent of reading a Pulitzer Prize winning novel, only to meet the author in person and find that he is a juvenile that likes pee-pee and poo-poo jokes. It doesn't quite fit.

Ozan would have been better off not saying anything.
 
murcott said:
I totally agree with you on this. Well said! clap, clap, clap, clap, clap! Every wasted minute on here could of been one useful minute out there.
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Trying to understand someones process when you see work you respect is never wasted time.
 
well from what i remember is people asked what adaptor he used and he replied that he didn't use one. then instead of accepting that answer people basically accused him of lying and then he repeats that he didn't use an adaptor.

did anyone ask if he looped/ADR the dialogue. i for one could tape a scene not using a boom mic and then ADr the dialouge. so now that cuts out a boom operator. proving one person can at least acheive that much.

people are saying he's not being truthful about the "pennies" because they see a mercedes. as i stated in an earlier thread i can get my friends bentley for nothing or do you not know what a bentley is? it's worth more than that mercedes...of course i'd let him drive it around some indutrial area...wouldn't that responsibility :)

finally i find it extremely funny that people are yapping about the "swat" uniforms take a real good look...i didn't know jeans were swat issue :grin: :grin: :grin:

so seriously give ozan a break...he's already explained how he acheived the shots and if you were really inquisitive why not just read his other posts not just in this thread, but throughout the forum. he's asked a lot of questions that he obviously used to shoot "meth"...put it together the answers are in front of you.
 
ugafan, people have their own motives in posting things. Not all are willing nor have the time to respond to every question and/or defend themselves against every accusation.

agcohn, you think all "professionals" behave like professionals? lol
 
bosindy said:
Trying to understand someones process when you see work you respect is never wasted time.
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The best way to understand is to go out and try and do it yourself. People learn more by experimenting and making mistakes than trying to copy somebody else's formula.
 
Then why are you here? Obviously you learn from your own trial and error. You also learn from others experience. should you forgoe reading Barry Greens books bc you own a camera and can play with the settings?

At the end of the day we commiserate on this forum to learn. When someone posts something that is special, I would hope to hear more about the work without having to be an archaeologist. No one here is obligated to do so and I am not calling into question anyones credibility.
 
I don't know why everyone still has to debate about this issue. Yes, Ozan hasn't come back and really answered or confirmed anything but it looks like his friend did answer some questions. Maybe you believe it or not but whatevers...

here's a lil reminder:

westcoast said:
I know Ozan, he does freelance camera for me sometimes.
I was one of the friends that he would send test edits to, so I'm familiar with the Meth project.

First off, Ozan is a talented director, I think we all can agree on that.
He's already getting bites from some production houses because of Meth.

He does about four specs a year, so he's pretty solid behind the DVX.
The thing that really impressed me, aside from his natural ability to shoot and edit, was how little resources he has to work with.
I've frequently seen jobs 100x the budget that dont turn out as well.

Here's the facts....
-His budget was around $900 CDN.
-SWAT uniforms were from a North Van company called Phoenix, and they're left-overs from an xmen3 shoot... so they were loaned to him.
-Ozan films for a Vancouver car drifting club, so he has lots of friends with fast cars who want to be filmed drifting for free ie:the black Merc.
-He didn't use a 35mm adapter.
-Helijet airways flies all over the lower-mainland like public transit, you just buy a ticket and film out the window.
-Vancouver is a major film hub, and has a very large percentage of hungry actors willing to work for free to build their reels.
Filmmakers can post an ad, and literally get hundreds of responses.
-He shot, edited, and did all the post by himself.... sound design was credited to someone else.
-The sand dunes are in Richmond BC, and are open to the public.... although they require permits to shoot big jobs.
-Most impressive thing to me was how he got into a small container yard for free... very tough post 9-11.
He was denied by about ten yards until he found a smaller yard that would let him shoot during some off-hours.
-Interiors are all properly balanced/exposed available light. Most are Ozan's friend's offices... the chief's office is mine.

Nice job Ozan, bright future ahead of you.
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since thats over and done with, who are you rooting for in the Superbowl?
 
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bosindy said:
Then why are you here?
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Because right now I don't have a camera. That's why. I get my new DVX in a week. I was previousy using a Sony from course. I no longer have access to it since graduating.

I'm here to see what can be produced from the DVX, what other people are doing. Although it's really interesting to read technical details, I'm one of those people who just cannot read a line of specs and instantly understand the concept. I learn by doing, which is why I guess it doesn't bother me that he's not posting up minute for minute how he achieved what he did.

All I'm interested in is seeing what other people do and being inspired..saying "hey yeah, it's possible. AWESOME!"
 
coffee said:
agcohn, you think all "professionals" behave like professionals? lol
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No, but if they're trying to convince other people that they're not full of ****, then it's generally a pretty good idea.
 
"for fun" can always just mean something other than real work like shooting peoples weddings and making music videos of bands. i sure would have called something like this "for fun" if i made it.

nice work ozone layer.
 
Steven Bogda said:
"for fun" can always just mean something other than real work like shooting peoples weddings and making music videos of bands
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So are you saying wedding videography and producing music videos isn't considered "real work"?
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No, those were my 2 examples of work. unless he is getting paid to make Meth and is going to sell copies of it, i dont consider it work, i consider it for fun.
 
Man it's sad,it's really sad that some of the negative comments about Ozan's trailer have been posted. And just because he posted that he did it for fun some of you want to ridicule him and his motivation? Some of you are insulted because he said he did it for fun?
Newsflash!!!!! Top professionals do what THEY LOVE TO DO;IT'S FUN FOR THEM.That's why they are good at what they do.It's called ENTHUSIASIM. MANY OF YOU WHO ARE CRITZIZING(sp) THIS DUDE WOULD NOT HIRE ANYONE IF THEY ARE NOT ENTHUSIASTIC about what they do.

If whatever you are doing it's not FUN to you anymore,If you don't get EXCITED ABOUT YOUR NEXT ASSIGNMENT,then you better get out of your profession whatever the hell it is. Because then you will definite produce mediocrity.

Some say he's not sharing info, well read the first 37-40 posts!!! Hell he posted on how he produced,in which I consider the MOST important part of any FILM and that's SOUND DESIGN. Go back and read it.

Hey this is the INET,you can't judge anyone's character FROM A DAYUM POST. Hell if I were Ozan, and I read some of those negative post ABOUT MY CHARACTER,I would not share anything else either.Why should I share info with someone who ridicule me JUST BECAUSE I DID NOT POST or share something FAST enough for them? How can someone know my schedule and time?

All of these negative comments is really could be a misunderstanding about the use of words and phrases. Man I learned when I was in the U.S Navy that you really have to understand WHERE YOUR SHIPMATE grew up. It's wrong to judge someone because his/her meaning or use of words and phrases is different from where you grew up. It takes ONE on ONE communication and face to face interaction to understand a person. AND A INTERNET FORUM IS THE WRONG VENUE on trying to get to know someone.


Again Ozan, that's a KICKAZZ TRAILER.

I'm out, I need to go cook some beer weiners for the Superbowl.
 
and this is a perfect example of how people twist what others say...

"for fun" can always just mean something other than real work like shooting peoples weddings and making music videos of bands.
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So are you saying wedding videography and producing music videos isn't considered "real work"?
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see...clearly said "real work like shooting" so how did you get that he wasn't saying it was real work? now let it end there because as normal would be everybody's explanation of what is there, what isn't there...theory/relevance/premonition/embellsihment...can we all just get along? :)
 
Wow. 1st time back here {on DVXuser} in months. Seriously.

Just saw a nice trailer, thought I'd leave some kudos to Oz and BLAMMO! ended up on page 26 of a sh*tstorm. I back-pedaled enough to know I didn't care to read any more.

Regardless of who or what alleged army created this well-cut and shot trailer, I wish them the best of luck and continued success be it for 'fun' or 'work', paid or pro-bono.... whatever.

Anybody smell sour grapes?
 
you guys need to quit hating...

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"I know Ozan, he does freelance camera for me sometimes.
I was one of the friends that he would send test edits to, so I'm familiar with the Meth project.

First off, Ozan is a talented director, I think we all can agree on that.
He's already getting bites from some production houses because of Meth.

He does about four specs a year, so he's pretty solid behind the DVX.
The thing that really impressed me, aside from his natural ability to shoot and edit, was how little resources he has to work with.
I've frequently seen jobs 100x the budget that dont turn out as well.

Here's the facts....
-His budget was around $900 CDN.
-SWAT uniforms were from a North Van company called Phoenix, and they're left-overs from an xmen3 shoot... so they were loaned to him.
-Ozan films for a Vancouver car drifting club, so he has lots of friends with fast cars who want to be filmed drifting for free ie:the black Merc.
-He didn't use a 35mm adapter.
-Helijet airways flies all over the lower-mainland like public transit, you just buy a ticket and film out the window.
-Vancouver is a major film hub, and has a very large percentage of hungry actors willing to work for free to build their reels.
Filmmakers can post an ad, and literally get hundreds of responses.
-He shot, edited, and did all the post by himself.... sound design was credited to someone else.
-The sand dunes are in Richmond BC, and are open to the public.... although they require permits to shoot big jobs.
-Most impressive thing to me was how he got into a small container yard for free... very tough post 9-11.
He was denied by about ten yards until he found a smaller yard that would let him shoot during some off-hours.
-Interiors are all properly balanced/exposed available light. Most are Ozan's friend's offices... the chief's office is mine.

Nice job Ozan, bright future ahead of you."
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word.
 
yet another tedious attempt to inflame, can't blame the fella for not wanting to come back to this thread or ever bother again to share anymore stuff on dvxuser - this site is a great resource but now & again a little witch hunt occurs & some people just can't help themselves - feel embarrased at the level of resentment shown here, it's doing nobody any favours & the only result can be that we won't get to see anymore work from a talented filmmaker - was really hoping people would have moved on by now
 
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