BROKEN2005
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jdanstan said:...and these will ship when?
August 21-25. Thanks for your patience....u guys rock!!
MOVIE TRAILER - BROKEN ($8000 Action Short - 100 Vfx Shots) DVX100a
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August 21-25. Thanks for your patience....u guys rock!!
BROKEN2005
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videoav said:
Thanks mate!
dustino
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First of all - your film looks unbelievable. I love the fact that you went all out for a short. I wish shorts actually had a viable market on the big screen - I'd love to go see 4-10 shorts at the multiplex during a feature's timeslot.
Lastly, I think your genre choice is really cool for a short (and really savvy marketing-wise as you said). It seems most shorts are artsy, animated, or quirky-humorous pieces. I've gotta think this thing would really stand out in a festival or other context against other non-features. Inspiring work.
Lastly, I think your genre choice is really cool for a short (and really savvy marketing-wise as you said). It seems most shorts are artsy, animated, or quirky-humorous pieces. I've gotta think this thing would really stand out in a festival or other context against other non-features. Inspiring work.
BROKEN2005
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Dabong said:
Thanks for the kind words!! Good luck on all your projects!
BROKEN2005
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Quick DVD UPDATE:
We should make our August 21, 2005 shipping deadline. The DVD company is shipping them out today. Thanks again for your patience guys!!
We should make our August 21, 2005 shipping deadline. The DVD company is shipping them out today. Thanks again for your patience guys!!
BROKEN2005 said:
Shipping to us today or shipping to you to ship to us today?
blazingoat
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orderd a copy just now. Can't wait!
BROKEN2005
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jdanstan said:
Shipping to us today or shipping to you to ship to us today?
Sorry man...shipping to us so we can meet our August 21, 2005 shipping date.
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As always...thanks for the support!
rur said:
That didn't shoot 16X9 or squeeze. They used wide angle lenses alot. I don't know if they blew up to 16X9 in post or just letterboxed 4:3. They used teh pansonic wide angle more often that the century 7X but worked with both.
I think this is answered somewhere in the thread, bohemith though it is.
BROKEN2005
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rur said:
We shot 4x3 and then letterboxed the image. It gave me freedom to recompose the shot in post. We go over it on the DVD
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Thanks,
letterboxed..
letterboxed..
Sorry, so you put black bars (top and bottem)? Is that what you meant by letterboxed?
I must apologize I am not completely familiar with the DVX and in the process of buying one.
I ordered a DVD from you too, that should explain it. Thanks for your time and sharing your knowledge with myself and everyone.
letterboxed..
BROKEN2005 said:
Sorry, so you put black bars (top and bottem)? Is that what you meant by letterboxed?
I must apologize I am not completely familiar with the DVX and in the process of buying one.
I ordered a DVD from you too, that should explain it. Thanks for your time and sharing your knowledge with myself and everyone.
rur said:
He means they shot in 4:3 (regular square TV dimensions) and then put black bars at the top and bottom of the image in Final Cut Pro.
The camera has a letterbox mode, where it places the black bars on the top and bottom for you, but the advantage to doing it in post is that you can slide the 4:3 image up and down behind the black bars and have perfect headroom / vertical composition all the time.
If you are buyingt a DVX you should know IT DOES NOT HAVE NATIVE 16:9 -- i.e, WIDESCREEN. Your options are
1 Letterbox either in Camera or in Post like Broken did.
2 Shoot in Squeeze mode -- a process which crops the image like letter box then electronically stretches the image vertically so that the black bars are no longer visible, and the image looks horizontally squeezed on a 4:3 monitor but right on a 16X9 monitor.
3 Stretch the image in post
4 Use the anamorphic adaptor which in effect give you native 16X9
Each method has an intened display or output method and each method has advantages or disadvantges, some fairly major.
If I were going to buy a DVX I would try to wait until November if I could, although I purchased mine last month becuase I just couldn't wait. The DVX100a's will be at an all time low price around that time as Pansonic makes way for the DVX100b, a modest upgrade I'm told and not likely to feature native 16:9, as well as the HVX200, which kicks all the ass that the DVX does but shoots in DVCpro and Hi Def with native 16X9. I've preordered even though I can't afford the media or the workstation to deal with hi def because I want native 16X9 and DvcPro, and tha camera is then later upgradebel to HD when I'm ready for that.
lense too right?
lense too right?
So lastly,
They used the anamorphic lense, as well as letterboxing the image in post.
The final footage looked great. I realize the lighting while shooting as well as the image touch ups in post was a big factor in achieving the end result. I just need to know if I have to purchase the anamorphic adaptor as well to achieve the highest quality image I can with the DVX.
lense too right?
So lastly,
They used the anamorphic lense, as well as letterboxing the image in post.
The final footage looked great. I realize the lighting while shooting as well as the image touch ups in post was a big factor in achieving the end result. I just need to know if I have to purchase the anamorphic adaptor as well to achieve the highest quality image I can with the DVX.
rur said:
No. They didn't use it.
You should searc the forum for "anamorphic" and /or "16X9", there are lots of threads that discuss the pro/cons of all the above, and that's not what this thread is for, especially since they didn't use it as they have said earlier in this thread.
Anamoprhic makes a 16X9 image.
Letter boxing creates a 16X9 image in a 4:3 frame.
If you use them together yuo get cinescope or 2.35:1 which is what epic hollywood films use.
No they didn't use the anamoprhic.
They shot 4:3 and letterboxed in post. They used a wide ANGLE lens often, which is different from wideSCREEN or a 16X9 adaptor. A wide angle lense just shows more of the image in the same aspect ratio.
Neither did "November" use the anamorphic, the film that won the cinematography award at sundance this year. You can see it on the big screen now if you are on either coast or in Texas.
But technically the anamorphic will give you 500 lines of resolutioon because it optically blows up the image before it gets to the chips so it uses all of the power of teh 3 CCD's. 4:3 is 500 lines I think, but any other widescreen solution gives you a total of 300 - 350 lines. Squeeze and uprezzing in post can damage the image some, though most say it is negligable. Letterboxing either in camera or in post does NOT "hurt" the image, however - along that shorter widescreen strip it will be the same quality as if you hadn't letterboxed, you are just throwing away the top and bottom 25% of the image. When you use the anamorphic, you get EXTRA resolution over the same area.
... but you can't use any other lense attachements and filter boxes for it are hard to find and expensive. But also the adaptor pust the horizontal and vertical planes at different points which means you can't get critical focus by eye and the camera won't focus at all aperture, distance, and zoom combinations. I did a test and a three shots that would have taken 15 minuts to shoot without the adaptor took over an hour.
Lots of great stuff is shot without the anamorphic.
Check out my page:
http://live-theater.org/jdandvlinks.html
and scroll to the bottom
The Deadlkidz use the anamorphic and it is quite clear.
The rest of the examples there includiung Broken do not.
BROKEN2005
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jdanstan said:
Dito!
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