Mounting 2 Sennheiser G3's on DSLR

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izoneguy

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I am doing more and more 2 camera shoots.
Right now I am using my Sennheiser G3 running into a Sony RX10.
I run another wireless into my ZOOM H4N…..
The videos I am producing are running between 60-20 minutes…..
So there is a lot of post work.

I need a solution to mount and mix 2 - Sennheiser G3's onto one camera.
 
Depends on your actual shooting needs.

Simplest option would be to get an actual video camera with 2 XLR inputs. Sony EX1R, FS100, , Panasonic AF100 and AC130/160, are one generation behind but perfectly viable and relatively inexpensive used.

Cheapest option is to run both wireless mics into the H4N, slate picture with a clapper, then sync in post. Alternately you could send a signal from the H4N line out via hard wire, or buy two more receivers and a SKP100 plug-in transmitter to send a sync signal wirelessly.
 
mcbob said:
Depends on your actual shooting needs.

Simplest option would be to get an actual video camera with 2 XLR inputs. Sony EX1R, FS100, , Panasonic AF100 and AC130/160, are one generation behind but perfectly viable and relatively inexpensive used.

Cheapest option is to run both wireless mics into the H4N, slate picture with a clapper, then sync in post. Alternately you could send a signal from the H4N line out via hard wire, or buy two more receivers and a SKP100 plug-in transmitter to send a sync signal wirelessly.
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Thanks for the advice…..
I have shot about 35 videos with my Sony RX10. I had the HVX200 and looked at the AF100.
The Sony's picture is superior. Plus it has a power zoom and is perfect for the videos I am doing.
I have a GH2 but the lack of a headphone jack is non-starter. We have reps that come from
all over the country to shoot in our studio so I have to be sure I am capturing decent audio.
I tried looping 2 wireless lavs through the H4N but could not get a decent output from it to the RX10.
I would think about the GH4 and its XLR box but I am now spoiled with the the RX10 and it's zoom lens.
I have to work fast and have some zoom ability while I am shooting. Plus I am doing 2 camera shoots
by myself…..it is a real fun time….
 
HVXguy said:
The Sony's picture is superior. Plus it has a power zoom and is perfect for the videos I am doing.....
I tried looping 2 wireless lavs through the H4N but could not get a decent output from it to the RX10.
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Don't know enough about the RX10 to argue if its image is better or not, but considering you're having problems with it, it doesn't seem perfect for your work. Nonetheless, it should be more than workable...

One issue you may be having is that the line out level is too high for the camera's mic jack, and needs mild attenuation. Try one of these:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...KLlp6rYwL8CFe4F7AodPQcAgw&Q=&is=REG&A=details

Alternately there's Sony's XLR adapter that I believe is intended for the RX10, A7, and similar cameras. Not cheap for what it is, but very easy:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/892383-REG/Sony_xlr_k1m_XLR_Adapter_Microphone_Kit.html

Hope one of those solves any headaches you're having
 
You can use a compact mixer/preamp like a Beachtek, Juicedlink or Sound Devices between the G3 receivers and the cam. This way you can record both in camera, one on the left channel, one on the right channel, mixed, etc.

Plus you'll have extra audio options like better dials to adjust levels, limiters, cleaner preamps, etc.
 
HVXguy said:
I need a solution to mount and mix 2 - Sennheiser G3's onto one camera.
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There's two obvious ways to go. One is to run the radio mics into the camera using a splitter cable (stereo TRS 3.5mm plug to two mono 3.5mm plugs, left and right). One mic goes to the right channel plug, the other mic to the left channel plug. Then you mix the two channels in post.

The other is an actual mixer, like the SD MixPre-D. It has an output specifically aimed at DSLRs, the DSLR gets a mixed stereo mic level input just like it wants (but at a level sufficient to let you turn down the preamps in the camera and get therefore reduce a noise source). And the box is designed to sit directly under the DSLR on a camera tripod. There are other similar devices, like the JuicedLink Riggy. I've never used the Riggy, but I own the MixPre-D and recommend it highly. If you go that route, know that MixPre-Ds are pretty easy to find on the used markets.
 
Grab a DR-60D for $199, comes with free copy of PluralEyes. If you're shooting in a studio, take the time to setup decent audio - it doesn't need to be physically attached to your camera. Two XLR inputs record two independent tracks, and also records a 2nd set at -6DB so if you get some overs, your butt is saved. Or skip the -6 safety tracks and record two more tracks via the line in for 4 tracks total.

You can run the line out to your cameras for synch. Actually, the line out from the 60D is a big improvement over many DSLRs so you may not need to synch in post. But the free PluralEye makes synching easy. Hit "run", grab a cup of coffee, done.
 
Michael Carter said:
Grab a DR-60D for $199, comes with free copy of PluralEyes. If you're shooting in a studio, take the time to setup decent audio - it doesn't need to be physically attached to your camera. Two XLR inputs record two independent tracks, and also records a 2nd set at -6DB so if you get some overs, your butt is saved. Or skip the -6 safety tracks and record two more tracks via the line in for 4 tracks total.

You can run the line out to your cameras for synch. Actually, the line out from the 60D is a big improvement over many DSLRs so you may not need to synch in post. But the free PluralEye makes synching easy. Hit "run", grab a cup of coffee, done.
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Oh yeah, that looks great. I think that is what I was looking for! Thanks
 
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