More Nikon D800 1080P video tests

Thanks t.p.! That is incredible footage. The image out of the D800/E series is first class for this type of camera.
 
bgundu said:
For Video the D800E and D800 will produce the same results due to how it downsamples to 1080.
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On basic principles, this is incorrect. Aliasing artifacts, including moire, can (and will) easily 'survive' downsampling to 1920x1080 resolution in the D800/E.

-- Bob Elkind
 
eteam said:
On basic principles, this is incorrect. Aliasing artifacts, including moire, can (and will) easily 'survive' downsampling to 1920x1080 resolution in the D800/E.

-- Bob Elkind
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My point was that there is no difference between the two in video mode. As an aside, I have yet to even have Moire issues in still mode on my d800E.
 
bgundu said:
My point was that there is no difference between the two in video mode.
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But there is a difference between the D800 and D800E: their anti-aliasing filters (OLPFs) are different. This difference will affect both still images and video.

As an aside, I have yet to even have Moire issues in still mode on my d800E.
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Right. But this is not a compelling basis (much less proof) for your assertion of no differences between D800 and D800E with respect to video.

This is a fair and supportable statement (for example):
I have not yet seen Moire issues in my D800E, in either still image or movie mode.
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This is not a reasonable statement (for example):
I have not yet seen Moire effects in my D800E still images, and this proves that D800E video won't have any moire or aliasing than a D800.
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-- Bob Elkind
 
eteam said:
But there is a difference between the D800 and D800E: their anti-aliasing filters (OLPFs) are different. This difference will affect both still images and video.



Right. But this is not a compelling basis (much less proof) for your assertion of no differences between D800 and D800E with respect to video.

This is a fair and supportable statement (for example):
I have not yet seen Moire issues in my D800E, in either still image or movie mode.
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This is not a reasonable statement (for example):
I have not yet seen Moire effects in my D800E still images, and this proves that D800E video won't have any moire or aliasing than a D800.
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-- Bob Elkind
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I haven't done any tests. I was told by Nikon reps that the video is the same. I bought the d800 for stills anyhow as I use my scarlet for video. Logic would indeed dictate a difference in video characteristics but Nikon insisted it didn't.
 
bgundu said:
I haven't done any tests. I was told by Nikon reps that the video is the same. ... Logic would indeed dictate a difference in video characteristics but Nikon insisted it didn't.
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Everyone reading this is probably rolling their eyes. Apparently not all Nikon reps receive the same product training, or share the same depth of insight or understanding of imaging principles. In other words, your Nikon reps disagree with other Nikon reps, and the customers are left with correct or misleading or unimportant advice (take your pick, depending on which Nikon rep is providing 'wisdom').

-- Bob Elkind
 
maybe the differences in the OLPF between the D800 and the D800E are not that huge (I know the D800E has the two filters, just not rotated, so one counteracts the other; maybe it doesn't do that 100%), or something else is acting like an OLPF (e.g. a lens that's not able to resolve enough detail for those 36 Mpix)
 
Wrong.

The 800E is NOT intended for the avid video shooter...nor is meant for the average photographer. That camera was intended for landscape shooters and studio shooters.

Nikon has been going out of their way to try and educate on this. Lest people who are blinded by whats on paper get them to buy a camera they shouldn't be using...and then start bad mouthing the company because the consumer didn't bother to educate themselves before purchasing.
 
Anyone who may believe that the D800E would be ok for general video should take a look at this vimeo sample http://vimeo.com/41814073, watch the grass toward the end. You would have to set your shots very carefully with this camera.
 
The grass at the end of the video was shot at 12800 ISO! No surprise there. The best camera is the one you have with you. Any serious videographer is going to have a dedicated video camera. I doubt I will ever use the video on my D800E. Not because it's not any good. I just can't get over the ergonomics of it. I actually like my GH2 because it has an electronic viewfinder and doesn't require me to drag my zacuto around. If I'm shooting video for a paid job, I'll be bringing my Af100 or Scarlet. Different tools for different applications. But if I got nothing else with me, I won't hesitate to use my iPhone if need be.

Stephenh said:
Anyone who may believe that the D800E would be ok for general video should take a look at this vimeo sample http://vimeo.com/41814073, watch the grass toward the end. You would have to set your shots very carefully with this camera.
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Took my Steadicam Pilot and the D800 for a first filmtest on trip to the ocean. It aint 1080p - only 720p though so I'm not sure if this is right thread for posting it. However, I used the Nikon 35mm f2.0 (I think the aperture was set to 8.0) and the 24mm f2.8 (A very vignetting lens) at 2.8 in aperture, all clips with 640 ISO. The movie is exported as .flv and that might not show the whole truth about the filmquality. I have to admit though that this was more of a Steadicam Pilot test than testing the D800 capabilities. And also, I need to confess, that I don't even know what to test, what the people want, but I am a good listener, that's something anyway. :)

 
Not really a real production, but we just shot some test shot with the our new CobraCrane 2HD, very roughtly (and badly) color corrected, shot with the D800.
you can see it with some "cinematic" shots.

 
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