Moderators going to make a HMC40 Category?
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BobDiaz
The Professor
I raised that question here:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=182690
The answer was:
Bob Diaz
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=182690
The answer was:
Bob Diaz
So Bob, are you getting one? ;-) I might, but then I am curious what Canon is going to offer. It is not like I NEED a new camera RIGHT NOW.
As for consumer cams, just lump them all into one category, because currently there is no gathering place for those who is not fortunate to own a pro camcorder.
As for consumer cams, just lump them all into one category, because currently there is no gathering place for those who is not fortunate to own a pro camcorder.
BobDiaz
The Professor
I'm considering it. For 2009, any purchase has to be put on hold until maybe 2010 however. I'll say that as far as money (income & investments), 2008 & 2009 were not my best years; so any major purchases are waiting for things to improve...
Bob Diaz
ATL Media Group
Veteran
Naw... that's just for now.. It's new and a big deal. 40 and 150 can both be here in perfect harmony.. heh
MadHMC150
DVXuser Sponsor
If the 200 and the 170 are grouped, why not lumping the 150 in there? After all, similar bodies, the same optical block and sensors. What? A-V-C-H-D? Consumer codec? Right.
With the 40 it is the other way around. It is AVCHD just like the 150, but its optical part is lifted from a consumer cam, and the sensor is different, and it has less features. So, it should have its own forum like the 150 has.
AND MAKE ONE MORE FOR ALL PANA CONSUMER HD CAMS
With the 40 it is the other way around. It is AVCHD just like the 150, but its optical part is lifted from a consumer cam, and the sensor is different, and it has less features. So, it should have its own forum like the 150 has.
AND MAKE ONE MORE FOR ALL PANA CONSUMER HD CAMS
ATL Media Group
Veteran
True... Mabye 3 groups.. Pro/Pro-sumer and consumer.
The HVX200(a) and HPX170 do fit together nicely in the context that an HVX user can exchange information regarding techniques, tactics, and procedures -- and it's all applicable to both cameras. In that sense, relative to the HMC150, I've also learned much by monitoring that forum.
The HMC150 has a great deal in common with the HVX200A/HPX170 -- a very great deal -- more so than people care to mention for a range of different reasons.
What does the HMC150 have in common with the HMC40? What does the HMC150 have in common with the HMC70? As an HMC150 owner/user -- what do I gain from following discussions about the HMC40/HMC70?
The logical thing is to have an AVCCAM forum.
The problem with that, relative to HMC150 users, is that the 150 has relatively little in common with the 40/70. They write to the same codec, and scene file settings are similar -- but the same can be said of the HPX3000 and the HPX170.
The bottom line -- as an HMC150 user this particular forum becomes quite a bit less interesting if I need to filter through HMC40/HMC70 stuff.
The HMC150 has a great deal in common with the HVX200A/HPX170 -- a very great deal -- more so than people care to mention for a range of different reasons.
What does the HMC150 have in common with the HMC40? What does the HMC150 have in common with the HMC70? As an HMC150 owner/user -- what do I gain from following discussions about the HMC40/HMC70?
The logical thing is to have an AVCCAM forum.
The problem with that, relative to HMC150 users, is that the 150 has relatively little in common with the 40/70. They write to the same codec, and scene file settings are similar -- but the same can be said of the HPX3000 and the HPX170.
The bottom line -- as an HMC150 user this particular forum becomes quite a bit less interesting if I need to filter through HMC40/HMC70 stuff.
As a newbie and new HMC40 owner I guess I have no strong preference. But I did a quick look at the first four pages of posts in this forum. There are only a handful of topics that are specific to the HMC150 and would not apply to the HMC40. Many have to do with AVCHD files and editing. Since the HMC40 and the HMC150 share identical recording formats all of those topics are equally applicable.
I don't care for too many sub-forums. But perhaps changing the main forum to AVCCAM and then have HMC150, HMC70 and HMC40 sub-forums?
I don't care for too many sub-forums. But perhaps changing the main forum to AVCCAM and then have HMC150, HMC70 and HMC40 sub-forums?
200/170/150 forum for shooting techniques, handling, etc. Separate DVCPRO/DVCPROHD and AVCHD/AVCCAM forum for footage handling. It is that simple. Where does the 40 belong to? To its own forum, because it is not similar to the 200/170/150 in physical design and handling.
The 150 and 40 have the same workflow, codec, capture media, color space, and maximum capture data rate.
The 200, 200a, and 170 have the same workflow, codec, capture media (except DV), color space and maximum capture data rate.
The 200, 200a, and 170 have the same workflow, codec, capture media (except DV), color space and maximum capture data rate.
This is what I said above. It is pretty lame to separate workflows by specific models. It should be separated by codec/media. Panasonic camcorders record DVCPROHD only to P2, record AVCHD only to SDHC, and record DV to either P2 or tape. So having three forums: "DVCPRO/DVCPROHD", "AVCHD/AVCCAM" and "DV" effectively separates workflows and present and future models.
The other forum that I mentioned, like 200/170/150, is not for workflow, but for "touching/feeling" and for features, which are pretty much the same. Like "how do I use wave monitor?" - this does not belong to workflow. Maybe there should be a forum simply called "Camera Controls" for all menu/button/switches questions on all models.
Barry_Green
Moderator
Cranky -- please. We've been doing this for a while. We have a pretty successful forum here, you know? We kind of know what we're doing, okay?
We will make the appropriate decision that benefits the users the most, at the appropriate time. So far, we have segregated camcorders based on what we think is the right mix of features and workflow.
The HMC40 has been on the market a whole five days. It's gonna be fine. Really. It will be.
We will make the appropriate decision that benefits the users the most, at the appropriate time. So far, we have segregated camcorders based on what we think is the right mix of features and workflow.
The HMC40 has been on the market a whole five days. It's gonna be fine. Really. It will be.
MadHMC150
DVXuser Sponsor
I enjoy the professionalism of this forum since it caters to professionals in the industry. I don't think consumer camcorders are used by pros so it may lack a little substance and also have little relation to better equipment. Just my thoughts...
7/20 messages are about the 40 and the 40 cost more then the GH1 (has a thread). It also has a lot of common features in good cameras and similar recording formats... I could see it having a category. Although I wouldn't use it, there would be more space for the 150.
7/20 messages are about the 40 and the 40 cost more then the GH1 (has a thread). It also has a lot of common features in good cameras and similar recording formats... I could see it having a category. Although I wouldn't use it, there would be more space for the 150.