GH2 mixing footage with canon cameras?
- Thread starter Azmyth
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I haven't tried mixing my GH2 and a 7D yet, but I've done it with a GH1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTdDZg57arQ
@ 2:25, the interview shot from the side is a GH1 and the head on shot is a 7D.
I noticed that the 7D is a bit more blue in color. I matched color temps on while recording, but if I did it again I would set the GH1/2 about 200* cooler.
I didn't take the time to get them to match perfectly, but I think it's passable. I also had a much nicer lens on the 7D.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTdDZg57arQ
@ 2:25, the interview shot from the side is a GH1 and the head on shot is a 7D.
I noticed that the 7D is a bit more blue in color. I matched color temps on while recording, but if I did it again I would set the GH1/2 about 200* cooler.
I didn't take the time to get them to match perfectly, but I think it's passable. I also had a much nicer lens on the 7D.
DPStewart
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Here is a great tutorial for matching the GH2's color to Canon's.
I actually use these settings quite a bit because I just like the look.
http://www.eoshd.com/content/599/tips-and-tricks-for-making-panasonic-look-more-like-canon
~DPS
I actually use these settings quite a bit because I just like the look.
http://www.eoshd.com/content/599/tips-and-tricks-for-making-panasonic-look-more-like-canon
~DPS
Will Turner
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Azmyth
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How much would this affect shots we've already gotten with the GH2 where we didn't try to match?
DPStewart
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Well it seems to me that the suggested shifting "2 to the left, and 1 down" or towards yellow and then magenta would be a good place to start in your post matching. Also maybe a bit of a push in the saturation and contrast. Basically doing what he suggested but at a later step.
But also important would be to get a good idea of what the NOSTALGIC setting does to the image in the first place. Should be able to find a good description right here in this forum.
So basically - make the GH2 footage look like its own NOSTALGIC setting, then adjust the color the way it was described in the tutorial.
Learning to recognize Image Quality aspects of what you're looking at just takes time and practice. Just remember that 'generally' the weaker link wins- you can "rough up" higher quality footage to match lower...but you usually cannot go the other way.
But also important would be to get a good idea of what the NOSTALGIC setting does to the image in the first place. Should be able to find a good description right here in this forum.
So basically - make the GH2 footage look like its own NOSTALGIC setting, then adjust the color the way it was described in the tutorial.
Learning to recognize Image Quality aspects of what you're looking at just takes time and practice. Just remember that 'generally' the weaker link wins- you can "rough up" higher quality footage to match lower...but you usually cannot go the other way.
NoahK
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I do this all the time- works like a charm. Make sure to spend a little time matching the looks camera to camera before you shoot with a good monitor. I wouldn't want to cut 1:1 between the two, but say if you used the 60D for a wide shot and the GH2 for close ups or vice versa- with some decent color correction in post you'll get away with it.
-Noah
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Azmyth
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Thats what I want to do, is use the canon for wide shots and the panasonic for everything else.
I have not had great luck with indoor video when doing this. Even precisely setting the WB, using a white/grey card, the cams just look different. If you remove the greenish cast, you then have a slight yellowish cast, which is better, but too "buttery". Using a calibrated monitor BEFORE shooting is definitely the way to go, and I have had acceptable results using this method. But they look different 
If you normally shoot with sats dialed all the way down, you may need to rethink this, go for sats just under the Canon vid then bring them up. If they are too low it will be hard to re-saturate them to a color that matches the Canon. Or vice versa, of course, you can match the Canon to the GH2. But out of the box the Canon color is more compelling.
Basically, if you "zero out" the video engine on the same white card, you should in theory get the same "look". But in fact, they look different. Go figure.
If you normally shoot with sats dialed all the way down, you may need to rethink this, go for sats just under the Canon vid then bring them up. If they are too low it will be hard to re-saturate them to a color that matches the Canon. Or vice versa, of course, you can match the Canon to the GH2. But out of the box the Canon color is more compelling.
Basically, if you "zero out" the video engine on the same white card, you should in theory get the same "look". But in fact, they look different. Go figure.
Bruce Foreman
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Azmyth,
If you're using the Canon for "wide" shots consider getting a "wide" lens in the MFT system. Like the Lumix 14mm f2.5, this is the full frame equiv of 28mm wide and is a "workhorse" wide angle. I have this lens and have been testing the MFT concept with an Olympus Pen camera.
This is a great working lens, on the GH2 you may have to dial the sharpness back using something like that NOSTALGIC profile (or whatever it is). If you have to use two cameras on some "takes", get another GH2 body, you don't need surprises in post with the film you are working on now.
From the reading I've done there are some subtle (and some not so subtle) color differences between the Canons and the Panasonic GH2, especially in the way skin tones are rendered. I'd go with one all the way or the other all the way.
If you're using the Canon for "wide" shots consider getting a "wide" lens in the MFT system. Like the Lumix 14mm f2.5, this is the full frame equiv of 28mm wide and is a "workhorse" wide angle. I have this lens and have been testing the MFT concept with an Olympus Pen camera.
This is a great working lens, on the GH2 you may have to dial the sharpness back using something like that NOSTALGIC profile (or whatever it is). If you have to use two cameras on some "takes", get another GH2 body, you don't need surprises in post with the film you are working on now.
From the reading I've done there are some subtle (and some not so subtle) color differences between the Canons and the Panasonic GH2, especially in the way skin tones are rendered. I'd go with one all the way or the other all the way.