FS7: Making Life Easier?

I would have little hesitation to go for the Sony 18-110 if it had a macro mode. That's why the Caninon 24-104 is so popular as it covers the most used range, has IS and works almost as a macro lens.

The macro is like the EX1 zoom where in Fake manual focus mode (AF lens ring position + camera set to manual focus) you get closer than hardstop manual mode. How macro it is Im not sure.
 
I was looking into cinema zooms for my fs7 a year ago as well. I got a pair of used Angenieux Optimo DPs, they can be bought second hand pretty "cheap" these days. Great size, weight and balance and beautiful image, although the 16-42 is a little soft on the wide end. Unfortunately you can't change the mount, they are PL and PL only, unlike their newer versions, the optimo styles. Another lens I really like is the old Zeiss LWZ.2 but that alone might be to short for you?
 
Most non British speakers miss 90% of my jokes :)

Nah, you don't have to be afraid of that. All non-anglo-american speakers consider all non-continentals' and ex-colonials' contributions as jokes.


:-)

Nikkor 50-300 4.5 ED $238,00 on Ebay
 
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Thank you all for a bunch of good info! I am renting one of the lenses for a shoot this week actually; the Zeiss 21-100. I went with that one, more or less, because I could get it for the days I needed it but will rent the Fuji 20-120 for the next appropriate project. I may try to rent the Sony 18-110 as well for a comparison to the Fuji and Zeiss - not only in image but in function. Sometimes there is a balance between having the function you need and image quality/character...as long at the Sony produces clean, sharp images some of it's benefits (stabilization, range) may offset the fact that it is "not a Zeiss"...some of the "character" can be added in the grade and in how you shoot the footage to begin with.

Sad news though; it appears the Fujinon 20-120 w/ no servo has been discontinued! I have no idea why but that must've happened within the past few days - just my luck. That price difference between the Zeiss and the Fujinon just became a much larger obstacle and I do not need the servo so it would just sit in a box. Ugh!

Thanks again to all of you. It's great to have all of our various experiences to draw from!

Interesting.

I was told by Fuji that ALL of the 20-120's come into the US as complete servo zoom lenses and they just remove the servo grip and put it on a shelf(literally) and sell the lens without it when requested. I guess Fujinon USA was getting their profit margins decimated, because they're buying the full lens from Japan, but selling a ton of the lenses for a discount to customers without the grip that Fuji USA is still paying for.
 
Interesting.

I was told by Fuji that ALL of the 20-120's come into the US as complete servo zoom lenses and they just remove the servo grip and put it on a shelf(literally) and sell the lens without it when requested. I guess Fujinon USA was getting their profit margins decimated, because they're buying the full lens from Japan, but selling a ton of the lenses for a discount to customers without the grip that Fuji USA is still paying for.


I noticed that B&H has the Mk20-120 sans servo listed as "discontinued" and only lists the lens + servo combo as being available.

That seems to back up what Run&Gun was told.
 
I noticed that B&H has the Mk20-120 sans servo listed as "discontinued" and only lists the lens + servo combo as being available.

That seems to back up what Run&Gun was told.

I'm glad I got mine that way when it was available. Maybe someday someone will have a "fire sale" on all those over-priced servos sitting on the shelves!
 
I'm glad I got mine that way when it was available. Maybe someday someone will have a "fire sale" on all those over-priced servos sitting on the shelves!

And they're matched and serialized. For every lens, there is a grip that has the same serial number and was paired with it at the factory. Fuji and Canon both state that the matching grips are supposed to be used on the matching lenses. It's unclear what would happen if a "non-matching" grip were to be used on a lens. I don't know if they wouldn't recognize each other or they would recognize that they don't have the same serial # and wouldn't work together or what...? Or if Fuji has a procedure to pair non-matching grips/lenses. Or... maybe it would just work fine regardless of matching or not.

I do know the procedure for re-calibrating a removed Fuji grip is more involved and harder than with Canon. With Canon you just re-mount the grip and activate the calibration in the menu and it's done in a few seconds.
 
That is a very nice looking rig, Josh!

I “test drove” the Zeiss 21-100 for a shoot over the past several days and I was pretty impressed. The Fujinon 20-120 is next on my list but sadly it would have to be quite a bit better than the 21-100 due to the non-servo version no longer being available... that extra $3500 will be tough to overcome.
 
That is a very nice looking rig, Josh!

I “test drove” the Zeiss 21-100 for a shoot over the past several days and I was pretty impressed. The Fujinon 20-120 is next on my list but sadly it would have to be quite a bit better than the 21-100 due to the non-servo version no longer being available... that extra $3500 will be tough to overcome.

If I remember correctly, Zeiss 21-100mm is a T/2.9-3.9, as in it’s a variable aperture. Normally it means as the zoom range changes the aperture value also changes. Would this be the case for this lens? Cabrio 20-120mm is T3.5 constant so that eliminates such problem.
 
If I remember correctly, Zeiss 21-100mm is a T/2.9-3.9, as in it’s a variable aperture. Normally it means as the zoom range changes the aperture value also changes. Would this be the case for this lens?

You are exactly right; the aperture ramps down as you zoom in and while its a smooth transition (not abrupt at a particular focal length) it's definitely perceptible - especially while watching exposure on the waveform. Some have said that they didn't see / notice the ramp but perhaps they meant is wasn't a jarring / sudden drop off in exposure.

...Cabrio 20-120mm is T3.5 constant so that eliminates such problem.

That fact, along with the additional 21mm of range is appealing for sure - just not sure if it's an additional $3,500 worth of appealing :) I do want to try the lens though and see for myself. The Fujinon is (I believe) the same length but one pound heavier than the Zeiss which at this point that is not much. I've also heard that the Funjinon is better balanced (maybe not in direct comparison with the Zeiss but I would image so with the way the front element flares on the 21-100) which may make working with it easier.
 
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