Magic Lantern enables 14-bit RAW CinemaDNG on 5D

Does anyone have this working on the Mark 2?

Would it require the latest firmware to be able to use UDMA 7 cards? - In that case, I read something about not using the latest firmware on the 5d mark 3 to use magic lantern. I know it is early stages, just wondering if anyone has 1080 working on the older camera.
 
Gillvane said:
I saw the morie from the BMC. It is eye popping and distracting. Didn't see it in the 5dMKIII shot but different shots can cause moire in different cameras, so...

I just got my email (a bit late it seems to me) from B&H saying "hey! Remember you told us to let you know if the BMC EF was available? Well, we got some now!"

A lot of people have been saying BMC 4k is not something to consider because BMC EF isn't even available yet, but it's here now. I think the Black Magic crew have truly worked out their production problems and we will see the 4K BMC in significant numbers when it releases.

But until you see footage from BMC 4k, or Magic Lantern Raw is stable on Canon 5d it's still kind of a toss up.

Although, wow, that 5d Raw footage is pretty!
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You got an e-mail from B&H saying the EF is available? One of the biggest distributors of cameras in the world? Have you seen the calendar today? 13 months late is all I can say. Now they have two more cameras to manufacture. How is that e-mail going for the BMC/MFT? That one is what, 9 months late? It's a really good thing that the BMC's "can" make a good image. Just stay away from tweed jackets and trails with pebbles on it.
 
I randomly had a talent show up with a jacket after a phone discussion about avoiding fine patterns that would have moired like hell on the Canon DSLR/BMC...but with the C100, it didn't skip a beat.
 
dustylense said:
You got an e-mail from B&H saying the EF is available? One of the biggest distributors of cameras in the world? Have you seen the calendar today? 13 months late is all I can say. Now they have two more cameras to manufacture. How is that e-mail going for the BMC/MFT? That one is what, 9 months late? It's a really good thing that the BMC's "can" make a good image. Just stay away from tweed jackets and trails with pebbles on it.
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Blackmagic Design products are a good value. Always have been. But their marketing department is farther ahead of their R&D department CONSTANTLY. I looked to buy their h264 convertor device and waited about 1.5 years for it to release. Not even kidding. They are in some ways similar to RED in this regard where their imagination and their marketing speed ahead faster than the R&D can convert to production and actual product.

Prediction: The 4k cam will NOT be in stock anytime this year.
 
Gary Huff said:
I randomly had a talent show up with a jacket after a phone discussion about avoiding fine patterns that would have moired like hell on the Canon DSLR/BMC...but with the C100, it didn't skip a beat.
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As well as I am. Which is why I bought the C100. On top of easy workflow for fast turnaround.
 
I've been weighing up my next purchase and I was considering a GH3/BMCC/5D3.

I think this media has now swayed me.

 
Wow. That Smith Rock test is a real eye opener. I cant believe how quickly this hack is evolving. Well done to ML and all the guys testing it!

So; this does not work on the newest MIII firmware (the HDMI out one)? Does anyone know if ML will be working on a hack that works with the latest firmware? Otherwise, is it possible to roll back to an earlier firmware on the MkIII?
 
ML is doing a stellar job with this. Latest footage is looking really good. I've always liked Canon's still cams, and still own a GL2 video cam. 5D MKiii cetainly seems to have the chops to make raw motion work reasonably well at least.
I just hate 4:2:0 AVC as an acquisition codec in any camera. Give me DNG raw any day.

PS: Check out the difference in chroma moire on the pebble path in that first shot of the BMCC comparson above. Canon's much cleaner. Don't know if that is due to a proper OLPF in the Canon, or just a more optimized deBayer process. Most likely the OLPF though.
 
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Razz16mm said:
ML is doing a stellar job with this. Latest footage is looking really good. I've always liked Canon's still cams, and still own a GL2 video cam. 5D MKiii cetainly seems to have the chops to make raw motion work reasonably well at least.
I just hate 4:2:0 AVC as an acquisition codec in any camera. Give me DNG raw any day.

PS: Check out the difference in chroma moire on the pebble path in that first shot of the BMCC comparson above. Canon's much cleaner. Don't know if that is due to a proper OLPF in the Canon, or just a more optimized deBayer process. Most likely the OLPF though.
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How about the pants at 1:30?
 
squig said:
If I did the pepsi challenge on that smith rock vid I'd guess it was shot with an Alexa....nuff said.
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Although the image itself looks like it could match an Alexa in quality, the motion is still video-ish like all DSLRs. I don't know what kind of secret sauce Arri is putting into that Alexa to make the motion move so much like film, but I can see it right away.

Here is an Alexa video from the same people as the Smith Rock video. Compare the two and you can totally see the difference in subject motion. Even at the same frame rate.

 
roxics said:
Although the image itself looks like it could match an Alexa in quality, the motion is still video-ish like all DSLRs. I don't know what kind of secret sauce Arri is putting into that Alexa to make the motion move so much like film, but I can see it right away.

Here is an Alexa video from the same people as the Smith Rock video. Compare the two and you can totally see the difference in subject motion. Even at the same frame rate.

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That video has been heavily stabilized both with Gyro's and in post.
 
roxics said:
Although the image itself looks like it could match an Alexa in quality, the motion is still video-ish like all DSLRs. I don't know what kind of secret sauce Arri is putting into that Alexa to make the motion move so much like film, but I can see it right away.

Here is an Alexa video from the same people as the Smith Rock video. Compare the two and you can totally see the difference in subject motion. Even at the same frame rate.

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That is why people say Alexa "like". Hence "like". Do you really expect a HDslr hacked to perform like a $90,000 camera? Or can you live with a "like" like image? I'll say this. The BMC is considered Alexa like. Minus all the rainbow moire that is :2vrolijk_08:
 
Yep, that final elusive percentage of IQ cost a pretty penny. I think most can live with the images from the MK3 and the BMCC...just have to pick which things you are willing to compromise on. One camera, the M 4/3 BMCC is being held in a bunker somewhere and no one has a clue, not even BMC reps, when it will ship. The available EF model one has an odd mount for the sensor size, and some moire issues...still puts out a very nice image. The MK3 raw is putting out very nice images, but at this current time there are some "unknowns" to think about as far as workflow and reliability...which will be sorted through trials and tests. Either way, it's pretty eye opening what ML are doing...and what Black Magic is trying to get sorted. 2 raw cameras, 2 different aesthetics, 2 entirely different roads that eventually lead to the doorsteps of consumers...both at the 3K price point.

Crazy and exciting times for everyone in the market to buy or owners of either system.
 
roxics said:
Although the image itself looks like it could match an Alexa in quality, the motion is still video-ish like all DSLRs. I don't know what kind of secret sauce Arri is putting into that Alexa to make the motion move so much like film, but I can see it right away.

Here is an Alexa video from the same people as the Smith Rock video. Compare the two and you can totally see the difference in subject motion. Even at the same frame rate.
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Does the Alexa have a rolling or global shutter? Because I know the F55 has a unique look due to the global shutter, that is probably what gives the Alexa its edge as well.
 
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