Magic Lantern enables 14-bit RAW CinemaDNG on 5D

He's like 100 take Stanley.

I need 6x 64Gb cards for a day shooting narrative. It's cheaper than a data wrangler.

Redshark news update mentions buffer overflow issues. The camera drops frames if the card can't keep up. Have you experienced this issue yet?
 
$5k??? You must be buying lots of cf cards to getto that ammount

If Transcend cards are good enough for you, there's a 128GB 1000x card for $370; a couple of those would be enough for me (each one will hold 24 minutes of 1920x1080 RAW video at 24 fps):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...eASIN=B009S61AFQ&tag=similaar-20&linkCode=as2

But some people shoot more than 50 minutes per day; and some people insist on using Sandisk, and those are $700 each:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...eASIN=B004ISL3GA&tag=similaar-20&linkCode=as2

So yes, $4K if you go lean on your CF cards, $5K if you let yourself go just slightly!

(yes I've also read about komputerbay cards, 128GB 1000x for $180, but I wouldn't go for them until I've read lots of positive user reviews)
 
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If Transcend cards are good enough for you, there's a 128GB 1000x card for $370; a couple of those would be enough for me (each one will hold 24 minutes of 1920x1080 RAW video at 24 fps):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...eASIN=B009S61AFQ&tag=similaar-20&linkCode=as2

But some people shoot more than 50 minutes per day, and some people insist on using Sandisk, and those are $700 each:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...eASIN=B004ISL3GA&tag=similaar-20&linkCode=as2

So yes, $4K if you go lean on your CF cards, $5K if you let yourself go just slightly!

(yes I've also read about komputerbay cards, 128GB 1000x for $180, but I wouldn't go for them until I've read lots of positive user reviews)

On the Kompterbay cards...Good enough for Bloom, cheap enough to at least try a 64GB one to try while the ML crew gets things fully ready. If they are reliable, that would be a huge savings on 6 cards.
 
Soooo, I don't own a MIII - I sold off my Canon stuff (well, except lenses) in fact because I was so underwhelmed by it.

If ML really can make this a reliable, usable hack, what are the odds that Canon stands pat? Could/would they release all new MIII's with new firmware to prevent the ML hack? Or are they more likely to respond with a much cheaper version of the C300 et al? Or do nothing at all?

Just wondered what you guys thought.
 
Nothing...this sells more cameras, more lenses, more batteries. For them it's a free boost in sales. Especially if it's ported to multiple camera models, and exponentially so if even one of the rebel models can be usable.
 
Soooo, I don't own a MIII - I sold off my Canon stuff (well, except lenses) in fact because I was so underwhelmed by it.

If ML really can make this a reliable, usable hack, what are the odds that Canon stands pat? Could/would they release all new MIII's with new firmware to prevent the ML hack? Or are they more likely to respond with a much cheaper version of the C300 et al? Or do nothing at all?

Just wondered what you guys thought.

I don't think this will change anything about Canon's roadmap; and why should it? They don't have to do anything and because of this more people will invest in the company. Disabling the ML capabilities via some firmware block would be like burning money. And it won't stop working professionals from investing in their higher-end products because those with budgets pay for the capabilities and peace of mind that those products bring.
 
If ML really can make this a reliable, usable hack, what are the odds that Canon stands pat? Could/would they release all new MIII's with new firmware to prevent the ML hack?

Seem to remember Panasonic/Lumix doing the same with the GH1.... not sure if it was intentional or not.... but any new firmware would need to be re-hacked, iirc.
 
The reason I bring it up at all that when ML first hacked the MII, there was no end cinema line to protect. Meaning it was more a less a no-brainer (and pat of why the Canon lineup became so beloved by indie film makers).

Of course now Canon has several high end cinema cameras...
 
Yeah, it's true they have cinema cameras...the people that want those will continue to use them. A C300 creates a beautiful image, has incredible ISO performance, has built in ND filters, proper audio, monitoring, quick and painless work flow, and just flat out works. Raw is overkill for a lot of productions, and a lot of those types of productions are done on C300s. Not to mention...reliable, reliable, reliable.
 
Yeah, it's true they have cinema cameras...the people that want those will continue to use them. A C300 creates a beautiful image, has incredible ISO performance, has built in ND filters, proper audio, monitoring, quick and painless work flow, and just flat out works. Raw is overkill for a lot of productions, and a lot of those types of productions are done on C300s. Not to mention...reliable, reliable, reliable.
Which is why I am truly thrilled to have 2 Mk3's and a c100. I have options now.
 
Yeah; this is great for people that already own a Mk3 (like me). I wouldn't go out and buy a Mk3 for this reason though, and only see very limited use for it. The new clean HDMI firmware and the ML hack are like really great, and totally unexpected, bonuses.
 
The 600d is now shooting raw at 720 x 480 using a slow card...we'll see what happens with the rebel line. Buying a 5D MK3 for this development might be a bit steep for some, but on a rebel? The the floodgates will open. lol
 
I don't think this will change anything about Canon's roadmap; and why should it? They don't have to do anything and because of this more people will invest in the company. Disabling the ML capabilities via some firmware block would be like burning money. And it won't stop working professionals from investing in their higher-end products because those with budgets pay for the capabilities and peace of mind that those products bring.

I agree because also this is probably pushing the chip and the card to the max with processing power and heat. There are going to be hiccups. People will put up with hiccups in a hack, because after all, it's a hack.

If Canon did it people would expect it to work beautifully, all the time, and all the support to make it do that, and the camera probably isn't up to that as is. When it crashes Canon can go, well, what do you expect if you hack your cam?
 
On the Kompterbay cards...Good enough for Bloom, cheap enough to at least try a 64GB one to try while the ML crew gets things fully ready. If they are reliable, that would be a huge savings on 6 cards.

Bloom wasn't throwing a huge SUSTAINED data stream at the card so if it did not meet specs it would still work.
 
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Andrew Reid shot the first real continuous 5D MK3 Raw footage on the same cards Bloom used. The data rates, sustained write speeds and class ratings for more expensive cards and the Komputer Bay cards Bloom and Reid used are the same. The UK may just be on to something we don't use here yet. The Data rate for the 4K 1DC footage is pretty damn huge...17 minutes on 64GB.

Every company starts somewhere, and Komputer Bay are new...but are building a customer base.
 
Yes, but at the present time the highest resolutions suffer from dropped frames. Stay tuned, all limitations are subject to sudden change.

On my 1000x card anything up to 87MB/s is pretty reliable, no skipped frames.

Full 3.5K lasts about 2 seconds before the buffer fills up and the card can't keep up.

Dropping to a still very respectable 2560 x 720 at 24fps seems to work well, no buffer overflows.

The latitude seems similar to the Blackmagic Cinema Camera. I'm amazed how much I can pull down an overexposed shot. It is a different world to what the camera did in H.264.
 
Owning a creative/production company with a few 5Ds, but no time in weekly production schedules for handling raw workflow...any thoughts on the increased quality being available in a wrapper for ingestion into, say FCPX?
Obviously in the future, but just wondering if this increase in IQ is only via raw.
 
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