Mac Pro

JY i think you raised some good questions. im no tech head but it would be cool if we could discuss these things without the PC hijackers feeling the need to chime in and **** things up for the thread.

on the surface this looks like one of the best tower updates so far... and i would say that is important to any of us that use the platform to edit or design with.

come on.. even the owner of this site said he is buying one.

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=638228&postcount=9

let the mac users talk this up.. it may change the way we work in the future and it is worth a good discussion here. it could help some of us (me) who aren't so tech savy to learn a bit more about it.

there are pleanty of other threads to sturr **** up in. so..do us a favor please...
 
korimickster said:
I thought you Apple fans (like me) might want to check out some of the real time coverage of the huge keynote today.

http://www.macrumorslive.com/web/

That is going to be the best place to check out what is going on real-time. What do you guys think? Will we see the iPhone today? Full screen iPod? Mac-Pro desktops?
This how this thread started and look what it ended beening about.Personally I'm a Mac user and I don't trash on anyone about what they like to edit on. That's why we have so many programs to use...
 
BMAN..of course.. but if you are not interested in the product then why do you bother chiming in?

do us a favor and go bump your film thread instead. thanks.
 
KOVAROVA said:
but it would be cool if we could discuss these things without the PC hijackers feeling the need to chime in and poo poo things up for the thread.

Agreed. This is a textbook case of "threadcrapping." This is a thread for people to discuss the Mac Pro (anybody look at the thread title? It says "Mac Pro" in it.) If anyone feels the need to come in here and threadcrap on those who are wanting to discuss the Mac Pro in peace, then they are put on notice that they are threadcrapping, which is forbidden behavior on this site.

So please, if your only reason to come in this thread is to make some negative anti-Mac comment, save your breath.


there are pleanty of other threads to sturr shi* up in..

No there aren't -- not on this site. If someone wants to go "stirring things up", please go somewhere else. Trolling ain't appreciated in any aspect of DVXUser.
 
They all suck... I've put to rest at 3 media production platforms.. (RIP
Amiga, NeXT, SGI) and at least a dozen production applications that were
killed off due to bad corporate decisions. (AVID Spectrum, Media Illusion,
BLUE, Silicon Grail, Cineon, Rays, Softimage Eddie, Alias Composer,
Matador, Elastic Reality, Vertigo, GIG3D.. et al).

The whole MAC/PC thing is pointless and is usually fueled by people
who aren't even exploiting the tools already on their platform of choice :)

I'm getting one of the new boxes in the next 30 days. I added another
G5/2GHz day before yesterday just to get me through my current project
that needs to be done by the 25th. They are just tools, but its OK to have
a preference for specific ones. What I find absolutely TERRIFYING, is that
we're loosing diversity in the options of what to put in our toolkits. Between
Apple, AVID, Autodesk and a few others, buying up everything and
killing/co-opting it, the overall homoginzation of artist tools sets a scary
precident for the future.

I've got less to chose from when it comes to viable editors, 3d programs, paint
programs, compositing apps, operating systems, hardware platforms or graphics
'chipsets' than I did 5 years ago.

I applaud Apple for their new 'hybrid' system... at least we've got three OS
choices left... even if they are all on the same hardware... shudder.
 
Greggl...

Please say your quote isn't true. FiVE YEARS HERE!??! I wanna go home.

On topic:

I've had the apple webpage up the entire day... didn't close it once.

Those Quad Xeons are looking mighty fine... mighty fine. I'm expecting an upgrade after the guinea pigs make the leap.

I mean... the pioneers. Yes.
 
Good points Greggl. Just look at Sony buying Vegas, Avid swallowing Pinnacle, Adobe absorbing Macromedia flash. Less options, less competition, less innovation.

Just another reason why Red is so exciting.
 
Hehe... I may pounce on a quad G5 first... we'll see what the macpro's due to
ebay/used G5 market over the next two weeks. I hate paying for 'bleeding
edge'.

It is absolutely true about the lack of options compared to 5 years ago... we've
got a LOT fewer players in the market and even less on the horizon.
 
Shipped...........WHAT

Shipped...........WHAT

Weird but true............

My 2.66 Mac Pro shipped TODAY :love4:

I got my e-mail from Apple.

I was told 3 to 5 days before shipping....but 1 day is even better!

MLCinema
 
If you don't like the platform, give me your address, I'll send you the link to post somewhere that people care. In the mean time, it'd be swell if for just once we could not have a hijacked thread and talk about the subject at hand.

JY_Blue said:
--i found the mac pricepoint comparisons confusing. I mean they left out an expensive component, the graphics card. also, you can customize these things to cost upto like $20k.
--along those lines: I feel a little uninformed about how important a good graphics card is to editing. does it substantially reduce rendering time?
Don't let the gadget geeks and $20k system owners distract you. The card that comes with the machine is perfectly adequate for most of the things you'll ever do, unless that includes a whole lot of 3D rendering. While the specs of the cards are impressive, it's not like you're going to be rendering Cars. Poly pushing is relative, and frankly even the "low end" card scales with CPU capability. Bottom line is that if you're mostly editing, the base model card is more than adequate.

--i think i read somewhere here that the processors might be swapable. any truth to that, or am I just dreaming?
I haven't seen that indicated anywhere, and honestly with the way the sockets and architecture change every year or so, it'd be a pointless upgrade with negligible benefit, especially when buying two CPU's. In all of my home-grown PC years, the last time I reused the same motherboard was back in the Pentium II days (the Hershey bars!).

--anyone with a sense of how that "time machine" thing works and what the limitations might be on pulling up old material and files?
Well, it doesn't matter since it's in Leopard and it won't be out in the spring. If I had to guess, it's kind of an extension of the journaling/logging that the OS already does when it changes files. Database systems in fact work this way as well, so you could move through time to see what the data looked at any given time.

--missed the part about how these machines are cooled.
I think I read there are a pair of fans in the front that force the air through the case, which is generally a better arrangement than exhaust fans because the pressure forces dust out instead of sucking it in through every crack.

--what would be some good alternate brands, models, and prices for upgrades such as ram, hard drives, and dvd drives.
Apple RAM is overpriced. Crucial isn't the cheapest, but it does seem to have a good record for compatibility. I bought a Crucial stick (oddly enough through NewEgg) for my MacBook Pro and it's 100% solid.
 
It's insane that they are shipping so fast. I would have thought that they would have waited until closer to October or November.

I guess that's lucky for the people who can afford them. I'll just have to stick to what I got for now.
 
Two posters say they hate FCP and/or macs, but are then surprised when another poster rips on Vegas? To each his own, fellas.

I can care less guys if you throw stones at it ! I just was curious as to why !

(I am not a criminal!)
 
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