M2 or not 2M2?

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fuseaku

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Hi guys, I'm actually looking into purchasing the Redrock M2 adapter. Is this a good idea or will I just be throwing money away? I'm pretty sure I could never build one and actually make it work, so getting the M2 would take care of that.

So, any suggestions? I'm pretty new to this.:kali:
 
If you don't know what you're getting into with a 35mm adapter (which it sounds like you don't), then yes. You will be throwing your money away.

Do some (read: a lot of) research. There is a ton of stuff in these forums and Redrock's. Read all of it then make a decision. If you are new to film making then you have more important stuff to learn then to mess around with a 35mm adapter. Like lighting...
 
I can't shoot without my 35mm adapter, once you get that gorgeous filmic look you can't turn back.
The problem is choosing the right one.
I tried the M2 and the Letus35FE. The M2 seemed unsharp. My fellow (who purchased it) never uses it.
Then i purchased the Letus35FE which has only 2 cons and the rest is all Pro:
The cons is that it's open. Dust come in and you have to keep it clean with pressure air. The other con is that it is not so beautiful.
The pro is that it has the sharpest image for such an adapter, and i find it even sharper than the Mini35.

Here are some samples i did:

DVX100 + Letus35FE (a lot of CC)

HVX200 + Letus35FE 1 (low light)


HVX200 + Letus35FE 2 (very low light)
 
William_Robinette said:
If you don't know what you're getting into with a 35mm adapter (which it sounds like you don't), then yes. You will be throwing your money away.

Do some (read: a lot of) research. There is a ton of stuff in these forums and Redrock's. Read all of it then make a decision. If you are new to film making then you have more important stuff to learn then to mess around with a 35mm adapter. Like lighting...
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I'm not new to film-making, but yes I am new the the 35mm adapter. I love the look that it gives and I would like to use it in my projects. I just don't want to get it and not know what I'm doing and end up never using it.
 
someday said:
I can't shoot without my 35mm adapter, once you get that gorgeous filmic look you can't turn back.
The problem is choosing the right one.
I tried the M2 and the Letus35FE. The M2 seemed unsharp. My fellow (who purchased it) never uses it.
Then i purchased the Letus35FE which has only 2 cons and the rest is all Pro:
The cons is that it's open. Dust come in and you have to keep it clean with pressure air. The other con is that it is not so beautiful.
The pro is that it has the sharpest image for such an adapter, and i find it even sharper than the Mini35.

Here are some samples i did:

DVX100 + Letus35FE (a lot of CC)

HVX200 + Letus35FE 1 (low light)


HVX200 + Letus35FE 2 (very low light)
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Your footage looks REALLY good!! I'd really like to achieve images like that.

I'm so confused now though, I want a 35mm adapter, but I'm hesitant on whether or not I should dive right it and try it out.
 
Then I guess the best thing for you to do is to find someone in your area with one and shoot some footage with it. See if it works for your style. No one on these boards will be able to answer this question for you. Some experiences will be like someday's. For me, I am getting one after two years of DVX ownership. I don't expect it to be forever glued to the front of my camera. There are times to use it and times not to. Only you can make the call as to whether it will be a bonus to your film making.

Just remember to budget it all out. Monitor, lenses, mounts, achromat, rail system, tripod (that can handle it), and follow focus. For bottom of the line you are looking at $3,000 easy for just that. Sure you can film with less, but only if it's worth the hassle.
 
hi, fuseaku

it's really hard to monkey around with the M2,( can't seem to get in focus)..... and on the top of that you have to spend few hundreds on lenses .......using the m2 for close up shot looks great, but you can get the same look with the stock lens just zoom all the way to 99....for wide angle shot looks like crap most of the time, it's almost better to use the stock lens.......
 
The M2 is really fun, and you can achieve great images, but it takes a lot of time. Like it was said before, research. There is SO MUCH on the forums. I just bought an M2 and am pretty happy with it, but still I have no acheieved the images I was hoping for. Be prepared to spend way more time for ever shot when it is mounted. If you can in your area rent one, or rent multiple 35mm adaprtors. There are a bunch of companies doing great jobs now, make sure you check out as many as you can in depth. Brevis and SGPro are bothing looking really good, and I might say maybe even better than the M2. sgpro has a crazy long wait time, so if you want to shoot soon that might be out of the pictute. I think the best thing to do is to keep reading and watching test footage, and let your money save up. Because your going to need it in the end.
 
iancarleton said:
The M2 is really fun, and you can achieve great images, but it takes a lot of time. Like it was said before, research. There is SO MUCH on the forums. I just bought an M2 and am pretty happy with it, but still I have no acheieved the images I was hoping for. Be prepared to spend way more time for ever shot when it is mounted. If you can in your area rent one, or rent multiple 35mm adaprtors. There are a bunch of companies doing great jobs now, make sure you check out as many as you can in depth. Brevis and SGPro are bothing looking really good, and I might say maybe even better than the M2. sgpro has a crazy long wait time, so if you want to shoot soon that might be out of the pictute. I think the best thing to do is to keep reading and watching test footage, and let your money save up. Because your going to need it in the end.
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Thanks for the info! My intensions for the M2 are not meant to be for shooting movies, most of its' use is going to be for corporate videos for my company I work for. But on the other hand, when I do my freelance stuff I would also like to use it for music videos and what not. Maybe this isn't something I need right now, but it just sucks because the 35mm adapters make your footage look sooo good, and I've always wanted that film-look.

Well, I guess I'm just going to think about this a bit longer and see what the best thing is for me to do. I know someone who has an M2, maybe he'll let me check it out. He uses it with a Panasonic, so I don't know.

Thanks for all your help!
 
You can make any adapter sharp. I've seen footage from all different adapters claiming to to sharper then the others. It has to do with toying with it until you find the right settings. In camera and in the mounting position of the adapter.
 
There is a lot of truth to this statement, however our primary goal for the Brevis is to reduce the possibility for error in setup and "monkeying" around to a bare minimum. In most cases, a user who has read our user material before-hand, would have basic XY adjustment done, back-focus set, and be shooting in 5-10 minutes on the REV2-MC. We find that customers who were previously using other adapters are even quicker :-)
 
I totally agree. The rebvis is much easier to and less of a hastle to mount and set up.
 
I bought mine to finally get out of the blasted video look and there is no freaking way I could ever go back! The only way they can take my 35mm adapter is if they pry it out of my cold dead hands (read in the voice of Charlton Heston)!

It will definitely add time to your set ups because you've got to set focal lengths and actors have to hit their marks on the spot. I can't speak to the others but the Letus just screws on and I'm ready. I can't imagine the others are much more difficult.

My emphasis is film and not corporate videos etc. so my bias is leaning towards a professional film lens look that video lenses don't offer.

If cost is an issue, the Letus is very inexpensive and I'd suggest buying used prime lenses. I got some Nikons that I'm very pleased with from www.Keh.com

Good luck with all your research and internal anguish. :Drogar-Happy(DBG):
 
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