Let's talk glass: Lenses for the AF100!

TheReverend said:
Yup.


Cool. And that is the right mm for the 4/3 field of view (aka taking into account the cropping)? Thanks!
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Yep. A simple way to figure it out is to see that at 13x on the 150, you are getting a 5.9 degree field of view. On a m4/3 sensor, that same 5.9 degree field of view comes with a 185mm lens. No crop factor business. Just easy math!
 
Michael Olsen said:
Yep. A simple way to figure it out is to see that at 13x on the 150, you are getting a 5.9 degree field of view. On a m4/3 sensor, that same 5.9 degree field of view comes with a 185mm lens. No crop factor business. Just easy math!
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How did you get the 5.9 degree FOV from 13x?
 
" That's more details than I think I heard. Basically Birger said they were going to produce a mount that did electronic control of Nikon and Canon lenses, and that they would have the Canon version done first. That's about the extent of the details that I know. They should be making an announcement within about a month where a whole lot more will be known. "

I guess there is still no news as to if the Birger adapter will be under 100 or closer to 300? If it's on the more exensive end of things, does anyone have any experience with this?

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Are there any issues with this adapter? Might be the best option when i pick up the tokina 11-16.

Thanks!
 
PaPa said:
I guess there is still no news as to if the Birger adapter will be under 100 or closer to 300? If it's on the more exensive end of things, does anyone have any experience with this?


Are there any issues with this adapter? Might be the best option when i pick up the tokina 11-16.
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Unless I'm mistaken, isn't that a purely mechanical adapter? In which case, the aperture of the Tokina would be uncontrollable.
 
Lenses

Lenses

I can't wait for this camera. I just got my lenses back from RP Lens in Michigan and I would highly recommend their services. Not only did they do the cinema conversion, but they did a general cleaning and necessary service. Now my Nikkor 24,35,50,85,100,135 all have an 80mm OD matte black lens hood, pressed on focus gear, and de-clicked iris. My latest purchase was the Nikkor 17-35 ED lens which will cover my wide end. I'll be sending that to RP as well. I've been testing it on my G13 and it's really nice, matches the nikon primes in contrast and is a 2.8 throughout. The thing I really love about it is that it's housed in a solid metal body and the zoom is internal so the barrel doesn't move when changing focal lengths.

I've shot with the RED 17-50 quite a bit and its no cook but I don't mind it. I would love for someone like Bloom to get a hold of the Digioptical 17-50 and 50-150. Sure looks like the manufacturer of the original RED lenses. I plan to use this camera in all of my corporate and commercial work and could justify the price. I've got the hotrod pl mount already so I would be set there.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/715071-REG/DigiOptical__18_50mm_50_150mm_T3.html

AF100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
PaPa said:
" does anyone have any experience with this?

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Are there any issues with this adapter? Might be the best option when i pick up the tokina 11-16.

Thanks!
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You should check out the user reviews at Amazon and elsewhere. I just got the Rainbow Imaging Nikon to micro 4/3 and it tests fine on the Tokina 12-24... and it releases and locks fine. Quite a few reviews on the Fotodiox said that it was a real problem to remove... several people couldn't get it off! Apparently it has a pin lock mechanism... the Rainbowimaging goes on an off fine and it DOES control the apeture on a lens without a ring... obviously, I haven't tried the 4/3 end yet, but it appears to have a fairly straightforward bayonet flange.
Just my own observation and research... best of luck to you.
 
I've recently started looking at the Olympus Zuiko line. I'm planning on eventually getting a set of Zeiss Primes but want a basic 3 lens starter kit that I can use.

Was looking at:

Panasonic 7-14mm f/4.0
Panasonic 14-140mm f/4.0-5.8
Panasonic Lumix 100-300mm f/4.0-5.6

But now considering:

Olympus Zuiko 7-14mm f/4.0
Olympus Zuiko 14-35mm f/2.0
Olympus Zuiko 35-100mm f/2.0

Granted the Olympus are faster and more expensive, can I get by with the Lumix lenses?

Any thoughts on the the best 3 zoom lenses to get to cover all focal lengths? Reasonably priced of course...under 2k each. I'm also getting a GH2 as a B-Cam and personal camera for when I'm on the road. I'd probably be taking this lens kit with me.

In the end I'm looking of have a few decent zooms and then a set a solid primes. Either Zeiss/Dulcos ZFs or Zeiss CP2s if I can afford them.
 
Even though I have a decent bunch of Nikon lenses... I'm going with the Lumix set, at least to start... the reason is the link between the camera and the lens. The follow focus on the 14-140 and the barrell correction for the 7-14 and the speed of the almost normal 20mm 1.7. The only one I haven't secured yet is the 7-14, but I'm closing in. I kinda wish I'd held off on the 14-140 so I could have gotten it with a GH1 to use the body as an emergency backup.

We could wait for someone to make an adapter, but in reality, the still autofocus won't really work for video anyway. A good friend of mine who is an HD engineer was in Colorado this week with the Panasonic engineers at an HD conference. I got him to ask about if there was anything to the rumored fast wide lens possibly in the works... the answer was no... so now I'm going forward with the 7-14.

With those bases covered, I can pull out the Nikon Macro, quick 50, and telezoom to try a specialty shot, but I know now that when the camera arrives, I'll be ready to hit the ground running with their proper lenses.
 
The more I read about lenses, the more I become confused about which ones to get. Some people say the lumix lenses will be too slow for indoor shooting, while others say the focus will be a huge plus. Some say never get a lens slower the 2.8, while getting ones that have constant aperture. I will only be able to afford $3000 worth of glass to start off with, so I want to make sure I have my basis covered. I shoot a lot of weddings, and other random events, as well as a lot of corporate training videos, which includes interviews and b-roll of different manufacturing plants. I know many think this will not be the camera for this type of shooting, but MANY do this with DSLR already, and the AF100 seems as if it will be easier than those. So for this type of shooting, what would some of you recommend?
 
swanny said:
The more I read about lenses, the more I become confused about which ones to get. Some people say the lumix lenses will be too slow for indoor shooting, while others say the focus will be a huge plus. Some say never get a lens slower the 2.8, while getting ones that have constant aperture. I will only be able to afford $3000 worth of glass to start off with, so I want to make sure I have my basis covered. I shoot a lot of weddings, and other random events, as well as a lot of corporate training videos, which includes interviews and b-roll of different manufacturing plants. I know many think this will not be the camera for this type of shooting, but MANY do this with DSLR already, and the AF100 seems as if it will be easier than those. So for this type of shooting, what would some of you recommend?
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Olympus Zuiko 14-35mm f/2.0
Olympus Zuiko 35-100mm f/2.0

best glass there is with the auto focus; tho for any pay job I would use Autofocus (this lenses don´t have optimal autofocus as are design for stills)

and for the work you describe seems to me a you need a zoom rather than primes you could use the gh2 a bcam with the otrer lens and be coverd at all time.
The lumix are great but at f4-5.6 you just have to much DOF for a nice image so what is the point on having a big sensor camera if you can´t get shallow DOF.
For that and autofocus a 1/3 x 3ccd camera is much better
good luck
 
If you're shooting weddings, get the lumix, add the 14 2.5 and the 20 1.7 and you'll have your low light covered.
The lumix glass has OIS, and much longer range: 14-300 total, whereas your Olympus set only has 14-100 covered.
Then, you'll have a bit of money left over for when Panasonic announces a faster zoom.
 
How do you think the lumix lenses perform indoors? Better or worse than a canon XHA1? Can anyone with a GH1 comment on this? I know the f stop is quite a bit faster on the A1 lens, but how much does the sensor size effect those values in comparison to the 2 cameras?
 
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Even though I have a decent bunch of Nikon lenses... I'm going with the Lumix set, at least to start... the reason is the link between the camera and the lens.
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Agreed 1,000%.
The follow focus on the 14-140 and the barrell correction for the 7-14 and the speed of the almost normal 20mm 1.7.
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I just ordered those yesterday. Even though I have a full set of CP's for cine use, the integration with the camera pushed me over the edge so I orderd the 20mm and the 7-14. So I agree totally with you on your thinking.

We could wait for someone to make an adapter, but in reality, the still autofocus won't really work for video anyway.
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This is correct. It'll work as a before-you-start-shooting-grab-focus feature, but it won't work during shooting. Well, even if it functions, it won't work like real video autofocus, you know what I mean?
But the adapter is still highly valuable for enabling iris control and OIS in Canon/Nikon lenses that have OIS and no aperture ring.

With those bases covered, I can pull out the Nikon Macro, quick 50, and telezoom to try a specialty shot, but I know now that when the camera arrives, I'll be ready to hit the ground running with their proper lenses.
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Yep. After all the reviews of how great the 20mm/1.7 is, and seeing as my CP 21mm is T2.9 and my 18mm is T3.6, that 1.7 is looking tasty, I had to get it. And there's just nothing else like the 7-14 out there, whether it's f/4 or not. And even though that's not f/2.8, I think so what -- I'll just go to 200 ISO instead of 100 ISO. At least the AF100 can deliver nice alias-free sharp wide images, so the extra ISO is a minor tradeoff in my book.
 
swanny said:
I shoot a lot of weddings, and other random events, as well as a lot of corporate training videos, which includes interviews and b-roll of different manufacturing plants. I know many think this will not be the camera for this type of shooting, but MANY do this with DSLR already, and the AF100 seems as if it will be easier than those. So for this type of shooting, what would some of you recommend?
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I think the AF100 will be just fine for those uses. But you will want some fast lenses in your kit. I think the 14-140 has a ton of versatility and even though it's slow, it's great for outdoors stuff. It is quite slow for indoors, and it's not that easy to get the shallow DOF look with it because it's slow. But if you ever need autofocus, and OIS, and a parfocal zoom, it's the only game in town and I think that it's gonna be a go-to lens for a lot of folks.

The Zuikos are great glass and they're very fast, but the autofocus is not going to be video-style autofocus. If you need autofocus during a shot, the only one that's going to perform satisfactorily is the 14-140. But if you're fine with manual focus, the Olympus lenses are sweet, very sharp, and very fast. I don't think you could get both of them for under $3,000 though can you? I think they're about $1800 each.

Maybe abasfly has a good point here though -- for weddings you really do want to have a backup B-cam with you anyway, so maybe a GH2 with the 14-140, and the AF100 with the Olympus lenses?

If you want to keep the cost down, I'd say the 14-140 and the 20mm f/1.7, and maybe the 14mm f/2.5 if you find you need a fast wide-angle too. Should be able to get all three for under $1300, and if you find out that one doesn't work for you, you can always ebay it and get most of your money back and put it towards one of the Olympus fast zooms.
 
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