Lenses?

Thanks for the thread link. I have to say, it really isn't that inspiring about Birger or the Sigma compatibility.

I think I'm going to go for the following:

1. Canon 16-35mm f2.8 L
2. Zeiss Planar T* 50mm F1.4 (no Birger control, but worth it for the image)
3. Canon 70-200mm f4L

That 8-16 IS cool. Sometime down the road, perhaps...
 
Wow thanks for the many recommandations :)

What i'm wondering about (no, not really i guess^^) is that many ppl bet on the birger adapter, while there is the LA-EA1 out there. Are the Alpha lenses just:
- too expensive
- not good enough against Canon EF Lenses IQ-wise
- not good enough handling-wise (low focus ring turning angle)
- or just unsure because of dedicating these lenses to the FS100 (or Alpha-DSLR) 'cause they aren't adaptable?

So...while there are a) expensive film camera lenses out there (Zeiss CP & above), there are obviously also many capable legacy lenses. But what about Alpha* lenses? So i wouldn't use my Tamron 28-75 because of it's small focus ring turning angle (AF is seldom an option for me)...


(*and corresponding third party lenses with that mount)
 
I'll stay with the Alpha lenses only because I already have a few for my 850.
They make some very good lenses.

However my plan is to use what I have right now and then see what E-Mount lenses are coming out later this year.
I would rather not use an adapter if I could avoid it.




Check out this site if you have not already.
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Lens-with-Camera/Compare

You can get an idea on how lenses compare.
 
flashbeast said:
Wow thanks for the many recommandations :)

What i'm wondering about (no, not really i guess^^) is that many ppl bet on the birger adapter, while there is the LA-EA1 out there. Are the Alpha lenses just:
- too expensive
- not good enough against Canon EF Lenses IQ-wise
- not good enough handling-wise (low focus ring turning angle)
- or just unsure because of dedicating these lenses to the FS100 (or Alpha-DSLR) 'cause they aren't adaptable?

So...while there are a) expensive film camera lenses out there (Zeiss CP & above), there are obviously also many capable legacy lenses. But what about Alpha* lenses? So i wouldn't use my Tamron 28-75 because of it's small focus ring turning angle (AF is seldom an option for me)...


(*and corresponding third party lenses with that mount)
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Birger has the potential to work with a wireless followfocus and Iris control. This is a huge deal. Two axis wireless fiz controls and motors are incredibly expensive and take a lot of work to set up their motors, receivers etc.
 
Pertaining to your question on alpha lenses, it is because I already own a bunch of EOS glass. I also have a 7D I use as a stills camera so I find it really nice to have to keep around only one set of lenses.
 
Anyone know if alpha adapted lenses support AF, or LANC focus control, that would be viable now until there are more options in E-mount.
 
nyvz said:
Birger has the potential to work with a wireless followfocus and Iris control. This is a huge deal. Two axis wireless fiz controls and motors are incredibly expensive and take a lot of work to set up their motors, receivers etc.
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What i'm perplexed about is that with the existing Alpha-Adapter - which can't be more compatible i guess since it's directly from Sony - there is (afaik at least) no possibility to do so with Alpha lenses...i'm curious if that could be an addon to the existing adapter, dunno how to manage. Hopefully there will be mods available or so, 'cause the whole Canon Birger thing is somehow upside down imho...

dop16mm said:
Anyone know if alpha adapted lenses support AF, or LANC focus control, that would be viable now until there are more options in E-mount.
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As i've read it's limited to Sony lenses with SAM/SSM drive, so even HSM or the like don't work. And of course the slowish thing which Hidef mentioned; That's a shame imho, especially for such expensive lenses with SSM...
But then again would be interesting if there is someone working on a mod, but i guess that's just too complex for little effort
 
I'm buying new glass for this camera. My reasons for not going with Alpha:

- Slow focus (mentioned)
- No Birger Mount (mentioned) - the Birger is the same price as a decent mechanical follow focus - and functionality and workflow are much better, if it works.
- Fewer lenses to choose from (compared to Nikon or Canon)
- A-Mount is a dead-end format - I doubt that any spectacular new cameras will use A Mount. Adapters will be less plentiful, less available, and generally slower to get to market. Even Sony is abandoning it in the long term. EF lenses will be native on the 5D3 and likely whatever full frame video camera Canon comes out with. Adapters will be plentiful. The lenses will be supported.

My $0.02.
 
In situations where super shallow dof are not required, the ridiculous low light sensitivity should make the kit zoom usable in most situations. Go to manual primes when you want more finesse. This seems squarely aimed at the wedding market, to get usable images in a dark reception hall. f5.6 is only 2 stops from 2.8, 4 stops from 1.4. The 30db gain is what 5 or 6 stops maybe more above the base stop which is already 800, and while not noise free, it is the cleanest low light gain I've ever seen, and way beyond the typical expectations of that market. I'm confident that sony has the influence to get appropriate lenses made for this camera, enough to wait for it rather than adapting the current tamrons or whatever. If you do 'run and gun' or event stuff get the kit lens and the 16mm pancake now and go with your choice manual primes for controlled stuff.
 
My issue with the kit lens is that everything I've seen shot with it looks substantially worse than all the other footage. I like the range of it and the cost, but I finally just couldn't rationalize paying for it. No one who has used it seems to recommend it either, which says something.

I totally agree with you about the speed of the lens. I just think the image quality looks to be lacking. Of course, CP2s would make almost every camera look better...
 
It would be great if I could use my M4/3 Lenses on the FS100. The 14-140 is extremely sharp on the whole range!
 
Benjus said:
The problem with adapters is that you lost the focus marks, (1 feet can be 1.3). All the adapters I've used have that problem, including some you can not focus to infinity.
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Get better adapters, or adjust them with shims, or if they have some sort of adjustable collar. As long as the lenses you are using are designed to have a longer flange distance than what you are putting them on, you are fine. The E-mount is like 18mm or something really shallow, while PL mount, (what i use) is around 52mm, meaning there is lots of room for an adapter to do it's thing (which is to simply make up the 34mm of extra space needed between the lens flange and the sensor.

Sounds like your adapters have just not been accurate.


ps: I have a E-mount to PL adapter, so I'm super ready to do some tests. :)
 
FelixGER said:
It would be great if I could use my M4/3 Lenses on the FS100. The 14-140 is extremely sharp on the whole range!
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+1

I'd love to get my M4/3 Voigtlander 25mm on there, vignetting and all.

There are a few adapters on eBay, but I'm not sure of their quality. Now, if only MTF Services was to make one...
 
I was planning on buying the kit lens because it was made for the camera and as mentioned earlier has AF, iris, etc. I have an 17-55Dx 2.8 that I am hoping will work well given the image circle should suffice (right?).
 
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Has anyone here ever adapted large format lenses? My Schneiders and Nikkors are gathering dust now that my partner and I closed down our state's only sheet-film processing lab last year. Be awesome to put that kind of glass onto a Super 35MM FS!
 
olindacat said:
Has anyone here ever adapted large format lenses?
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Aren't those lenses really slow? Plus they might not be designed for the finer detail of a smaller imaging frame. Sharpness tolerances are probably a bit more relaxed for large format with its huge imaging area.
 
They are. 5.6 most of them. Not like the 2.8s or 1.4s for sure. Just wondered if they were usable as we stopped running sheet film a year ago and the glass is gathering dust.
 
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