C100: LCD LOUPE for the C100ii?

John Foundas

John Foundas

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Anyone know of a solid LCD loupe for the C100ii ?
Something like the Z finder for the 300. Oddly, Zacuto doesn't make one for the C100ii

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Zacuto probably doesn't make one because the EVF is pretty usable. Is there a reason you're not just using the EVF? Do you have a rig that places it too far from your eye?
 
Using a c shooter seems like adding a loop puts it in a solid position for shoulder work.
They make one for the C300 LCD and that pretty solid. Seems odd they wouldn't make one unless theyre just trying to sell everyone the gradicals
 
John Foundas said:
Using a c shooter seems like adding a loop puts it in a solid position for shoulder work.
They make one for the C300 LCD and that pretty solid. Seems odd they wouldn't make one unless theyre just trying to sell everyone the gradicals
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While I agree, the MKII EVF works well, I also seem to think Zacuto is placing all their chips on Gratical HD sales. I run with a Redrock Handheld unit and it is a little bit of a stretch to the EVF. In both units though, you can adjust the distance of the pad to bring the rig in closer. For me, this is automatic when mounting-up the 70-200. I am not aware of any product for the MKII except the Z Flip and their Gratical. You might want to reach-out to Kinotehnik to see if they could provide a bespoke LCDEV for the flip-out screen.
 
Thanks. I like the c shooter quite a bit but I am an old ENG guy and I just like the proper fit of an eye piece. Maybe even a hood man sunshade or something might be OK. Indoors I'm fine just the outdoor with glare etc.
 
John Foundas said:
Thanks. I like the c shooter quite a bit but I am an old ENG guy and I just like the proper fit of an eye piece. Maybe even a hood man sunshade or something might be OK. Indoors I'm fine just the outdoor with glare etc.
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Just to clarify, are you talking about the EVF or the OLED?
 
John Foundas said:
The flip out LCD screen
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Ok then, either Kino or ProCam. For sure either of these two should have resized parts in the works for C100 MKII. You mentioned eyepiece and that threw me off. Just saying here but I never use the flip-out during a shoot. My purpose for a hand-held (not a clunky shoulder mount) is to grab that baby by the top handle and run!
 
Does the mkii have the same size LCD as the mki? If it does the BM LCDVF from Kinotehnik fits perfectly. I use mine on every job.

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analog_addict said:
Does the mkii have the same size LCD as the mki? If it does the BM LCDVF from Kinotehnik fits perfectly. I use mine on every job.

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Kino would be my choice as well. Both C100 and C100MKII are 3.5" but the motion of the later may pose a problem for existing hoods. Best to contact Kinotehnik and have one made. It's only money...
However, something like this is not going to work well on a handheld w/chest pad rig.
 
control4userguy said:
Kino would be my choice as well. Both C100 and C100MKII are 3.5" but the motion of the later may pose a problem for existing hoods. Best to contact Kinotehnik and have one made. It's only money...However, something like this is not going to work well on a handheld w/chest pad rig.
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I just shoot it like a DSLR it's so light. Even without IS the image is very steady when held correctly. I'd like a proper shoulder rig with a grip re-locator but I'm mostly on sticks and when I'm not I need to be able to quickly throw the camera in my bag and move. If I was shooting something for TV, ENG style, a good shoulder rig would be required.Anyway I think the LCDVF BM should be OK on the C100 mkii. It shouldn't interfere with the buttons but you won't be able to close the LCD completely, it will poke out by 1 or 2mm.
 

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Agreed, the C100 is designed for DSLR-type handling. I do like to "go in between" and use a chest pad & rods though. The issue is there is a little bit of a stretch to reach the EVF when using this type of rig. It's also not really natural to use the OLED with this either since it is positioned too close. More so using a recoil and one manufacturer has capitalized on this. OP has the right question going here...
 
Considering you can slide the baseplate forward a little bit, I think this might be a solid solution with the c shooter. I'll give it s look. Thanks all!
 

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Again, not sure that'll work on a MKII. It is way to long for a shoulder or chest pad situation too. Think of the CG once a tele-zoom is installed...
 
I'm lost here. I'll assume you either have the C shooter or are set on getting one. I guess it's the latter and you foresee a potential problem with EVF location hence the need for this thread? C shooter looks to be a strange bunch of parts. How would those counterweights ever work to balance with absolutely no overhang out the back? We're talking 12" rods? I guess if I were to run with primes all day long it might... Also, I cannot envision how one were to use even the stock EVF so close to head (I need glasses to read so that's probably my personal issue). Forget a 70-200 on that thing, front-heavy to the max and no room for a lens support. If it were me, I'd build my own and at least with 18" rods.

So, just to double-back on this, I still don't see how adding some aftermarket loupe or hood on top of the C shooter shortcomings will get you what should be a comfortable rig. Let us know how it works though.
 
Doug_EX said:
Is there a reason you didn't go for the Zacuto Z shooter (beside price)? Did you try it before going wit the Kinotechnik?
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Of course price was the main reason I purchased it. Also availability, it was delivered next day from Estonia to the UK. I like having a loupe I can instantly snap on and off, the Z-Finder is a bit bulkier and requires bands. The LCDVF is light enough for the LCD to hold it in the vertical position as shown in my picture above. To be honest the Z-Finder looks like a bit of a burden to me.I think paying £305 for the Z-Finder is ridiculous for what it is. The LCDVF was £80 which I thought was quite expensive. You really are paying for the idea more than the materials. The Chinese copies of the 3:2 size LCDVF is optically just as good for only £15. There are no copies of the LCDVF in the C100 size so I had to buy it. To be fair I think it's a good product.
 
analog_addict said:
Of course price was the main reason I purchased it. Also availability, it was delivered next day from Estonia to the UK. I like having a loupe I can instantly snap on and off, the Z-Finder is a bit bulkier and requires bands. The LCDVF is light enough for the LCD to hold it in the vertical position as shown in my picture above. To be honest the Z-Finder looks like a bit of a burden to me.I think paying £305 for the Z-Finder is ridiculous for what it is. The LCDVF was £80 which I thought was quite expensive. You really are paying for the idea more than the materials. The Chinese copies of the 3:2 size LCDVF is optically just as good for only £15. There are no copies of the LCDVF in the C100 size so I had to buy it. To be fair I think it's a good product.
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Thanks for the info. Does yours works well with glasses?
 
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