GH4 JVC just owned Panasonic.

diegocervo said:
now I see your point.
Sad that you returned it. It should become a very capable camera in a few weeks.
The tests of j-log that I've seen look promising.
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Wanted to love this camera. I sold my AF100 and was looking to get into the 4k realm.
I thought the LS300 was the ticket but it wasn't what I was looking for.
I returned it and bought a GH4. I'll use that until I find another camera that suits me. (looking at the Ursa Mini or FS5)
To be fair, the JVC is cheaper than the other cameras. So perhaps you're right; maybe it's a little good camera for the money...
 
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Barry_Green said:
So the firmware update adds UHD/60p recording to the LS300? And a 13x power zoom? And a color-accurate LCD and EVF?

Look, they're entirely different camcorders aimed at different users. Why does one have to "beat" the other? If you want an interchangeable-lens version, the JVC is the far better choice. If you want what the Panasonic offers, it's a far better choice.
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i would say not the dvx200 but the successor to af100 which does not exist.
 
The keyword there was "constantly", guys. Nothing JVC has announced is that special or significant. If you're chomping at this bit, you'll chomp at the next one and the next and the next and so on.

The point was Panasonic shouldn't give people like that a second thought, and should focus on delivering the best Panasonic experience they can.
 
refocusedmedia said:
The keyword there was "constantly", guys. Nothing JVC has announced is that special or significant. If you're chomping at this bit, you'll chomp at the next one and the next and the next and so on.

The point was Panasonic shouldn't give people like that a second thought, and should focus on delivering the best Panasonic experience they can.
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I think GH5 will be great if they learn from the V-log mess.
 
refocusedmedia said:
The keyword there was "constantly", guys. Nothing JVC has announced is that special or significant. If you're chomping at this bit, you'll chomp at the next one and the next and the next and so on.

The point was Panasonic shouldn't give people like that a second thought, and should focus on delivering the best Panasonic experience they can.
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panasonic has squandered a good lead in the interchangeable lens large sensor camera category. now they cant get into the market with fs5 and many new alternative cameras (BMC, a7s, etc) because their product cycle is just too slow. now focusing on a different segment (dvx200) means theyve just given up on that.
 
The fact that the competition has rolled out the Ursa Mini, FS5 and LS300; must mean there IS a market for 'affordable' interchangeable lens cameras.

Why Panasonic abandoned this segment is a real head-scratcher . (Espescially after being a pioneer in it)

The DVX200 is poised to be a good events camera, but the fixed lens is most likely a deal breaker for AF100 users looking to trade up.

I believe many current Panasonic customers will be seriously looking at the those other cameras and selling off their MFT lenses. I know I will be.

It would have been relatively easy for Panny to develop a 'body-only' companion model to the DVX200.

It seems like they haven't really thought this through...
 
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If your a "Brand Person" like I am, I think the best thing to do is to use what you have and wait, Panasonic may see the light and develop a body only companion to the DVX200. In the meantime, I'm going to buy a Video Devices PIX E5 for my existing Panasonic GH4 and AG-HPX250 cameras and sit this years offerings out.
 
TFilipiak said:
Why Panasonic abandoned this segment is a real head-scratcher . (Espescially after being a pioneer in it)
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It seems that the reason is a big contrast between the photo and the professional video sectors of Panasonic. But Panasonic not only has abandoned this segment, has abandoned also all the people that, like me, has invested thousands of euros in M43 lenses. I've bought that lenses for photo and video, both: I would never have bought those lumix lenses just to take pictures. For these reason I'm grateful to JVC, because they have saved my money, bringing me a S35 camera with a m43 mount. T
 
Panasonic has procrastinated, but it's too early to say whether it has abandoned the idea of a true successor to the AF100.

Electronics development is glacial.
Corporations are even more glacial.
Panasonic especially has had its setbacks. The past few years it has laid off tens of thousands of people.

They may be working on a true AF100 successor. They may have been working on one for a couple years. But it may still be another year before it's announced.
 
I think the DVX200 could have owned some cameras if it had better specs. A true f2.8 lens through FF eq. 100mm, 4:2:2 10bit 1080p60 recording and a less compromised 4k field of view would have made the camera pretty tough to beat. Instead we have basically an f4 AVCHD camera with a FF eq 37mm wide lens in 4k. Not bad, but not exactly the stuff dreams are made of. Had a similar view of Panasonic's commitment to the AF-100. Sort of like "let's test this out but not really do what it takes to make a space-killer".
 
I hate this new use of the word 'owned'. I saw the title and knew Matsishita owned Panasonic, and wonder if JVC had bought out Matsushita, getting ownership of Panasonics designs and patents? Bit of a downer to find out it was the new version!
 
The last fiscal year, JVC Kenwood had revenues of 285 billion yen, Panasonic of ~ 7.7 trillion ... which would have made it one hell of a leveraged buyout.
 
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