Jvc 4k

So, an interchangeable lens AF-200 competitor for $4,500.

A small sensor run-n-gun for $3,500.

And a compact for $2,500.

(nothing for $1,700 yet!!! .... but pretty close to what I had thought in terms of features and pricing)

Edit: No physical dimensions given so far, so here are a few quick You Tube clips (in German and English), which contains several closeup shots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mG9ICFH0Yo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbNvATaoUXI

 
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Cool stuff. M4/3 mount is regrettable - obviously a licensing compromise - but really, I would rather this than a M4/3 sized sensor anyway. Eager to see how it performs.
 
Whats wrong with an MFT mount - you can get adapters for anything.

Only issue is no S35 speed booster in MFT mount?

S
 
There is - fairly sure all of the speed boosters will cover S35. It's just not the most robust mount ever. Far from a deal-breaker, though.
 
Interesting camera lineup. I was expecting the LS300, but not the other two.
The LS200 is a direct competitor to Sony's X70 and Panny's X1000. It has features of both. The JVC has focus/zoom control rings on the lens and iris control below them on the body. That's preferable to the X70 arrangement. Same sensor size as the X1000. SDI like the X70.
Nice little package.
 
LS300.....been on a NDA for while on this and it looks like they really listened to what I and others said in terms of what has to be on the camera...it does not seem to be missing anything. The micro 4/3 mount will keep the door open for a lot of lenses, many that people already own...the shocking part is the price ($4450.00 msrp)! I was led to believe it would be in the $5-6K range so way to go JVC!

Jim Martin
 
Jim how does it get around having a S35 sensor with M4/3 glass? Would it crop when it detects a native M4/3 lens and work in S35 mode for adapted lenses? If so its like a built in speed booster without the pricey adapter.
 
Would it crop when it detects a native M4/3 lens and work in S35 mode for adapted lenses?
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You probably have to manually change the crop modes.

But it's sheer genius and the future.

  1. 135. Use a speedbooster and mount any lens that covers 135 ("full frame") and get 135 depth of field.
  2. S35. Use an adapter to mount a lens that covers S35: Canon, Nikon, Zeiss, PL, etc.
  3. 4/3. Directly mount a 4/3 lens and shoot in 4/3 crop mode. Since the sensor is 4.5K, this should be about 3.5K.
  4. S16. Use an adapter to mount a C-mount lens, and shoot in S16 or 16mm crop mode. This should be about 2K.

--- http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?328626-Jvc-gy-l300
 
However:

- only 50 mbps .mov files, instead of ProRes?

- only 10.5 stops, while still being rolling shutter? Last I heard, they're using the AL41410C sensor from AltaSens, a company they now own. Meanwhile, a 12-stop global-shutter sensor from CMOSIS has been out for years, for $1,800. Even if this made the camcorder another $1,800 --- bringing it to over $6,000 --- they would have sold many more.
 
This could be the 'spiritual' successor to the AF100 a lot of people have been begging Panasonic for. ( tho' I still think Panny might surprise us with a camera in this segment. A little too late, maybe???) As someone who is already invested in MFT lenses and adaptors, this may be my next camera. I hope the AL41410C sensor is up to the task. Does anyone know if it's been used in any other cameras? If it's DR is not much better than AF100's, that could be a deal breaker.
 
if they perform well, great. the trouble jvc has is that the other boys generate much of the buzz and thus many producers request buzz'd about cameras. the FS7 is looking to be one of those cameras, i can't recall the last camera jvc had that generated a lot of buzz.

that being said, for many folks that's irrelevant, and if the tool works for the job....
 
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That's how I'm reading it:



However, it seems that 4:2:2 is for 1080P only:
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It's unclear whether the the 4K is 4:2:2, but I suspect it might be. JVC recently also announced the GW-SP100E remote head camera system, which seems to use the same sensor. Among the specs: "Up to 4K Ultra HD 50/60p recording at 4:2:2 150 Mbps." I assume that if the GW-SP100E can record 60p 4:2:2 at 150 Mbps, the LS300 can probably also do 24/30p 4:2:2 at the same data rate.
 
combatentropy said:
Last I heard, they're using the AL41410C sensor from AltaSens, a company they now own. Meanwhile, a 12-stop global-shutter sensor from CMOSIS has been out for years, for $1,800. Even if this made the camcorder another $1,800 --- bringing it to over $6,000 --- they would have sold many more.
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The CMV12000 is not a natively 12-stop sensor, but a 10-stop one. The 12-stop figure used by Aja and BMD must involve the use of the pseudologarithmic-curve HDR mode. Apertus claims they've gotten it to work at 15+ stops, but with visual artifacts (due to multiple exposures). The AL41410C appears to have no HDR modes, but it may have the edge in light sensitivity, one of the CMV12000's weak areas.
 
No mention of 4:2:2 in 4K. Only 150Mb/s: 24/30 fps. No 60p either in UltraHD.

HDMI 2.0 for external 4K monitor/recorder. Dont know if it's uncompressed or 4:2:0.

I'd like to play with this JVC and I haven't said that before. It's the AF200 I wanted a few years ago only 4K. The real test is how the cameras Variable Scan Mapping actually looks when using MFT lenses.

It baffles me how you could use APS-C or full frame lenses on this camera. The adapter would vignette right?

Quote from AudioVideoPro.com
http://www.audiovideopro.net/ibc-2014-hands-preview-jvc-gy-ls300/2/

"The camera will use a Micro Four Thirds mount as, Emrich says (product manager), this will enable electronic control over the lens. However, JVC stresses this is not a Micro Four Thirds camera, although the GY-LS300 may well support a Micro Four Thirds crop.
Instead, the company says, it will be possible to record full 4K on a Super35mm image, as there is sufficient coverage in the M43 mount to support a larger sensor. Exactly how well this works will, of course, depend on the lens choice. It is possible – although we have not tested this – that lower-specification Micro Four Thirds lenses could lead to some vignetting.
JVC, though, believes that one benefit of the Micro Four Thirds mount is its compatibility with a wide range of lenses, via adapters."
 
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