just got manhatten 8.9" LCD

I am interested in how much of the frame you can see on the LCD. I get snagged on my IKAN with using an adapter (Brevis) not seeing 100 percent of the frame and then wind up sometimes with an adapter edge (you can only see it if you use as a file, like web playback). This thing looks pretty sweet. Might be time to pack up the IKAN and send it to market...
 
The 21.5" Benq is excellent screen, 1920*1080 (proper 16:9, 2ms GTG, 5ms overall) without a hitch. And the color representation is good in my opinion. I wouldn't be comparing the cheap poloriod with the BENQ. It has HDMI, DVI in addition to the VGA and audio inputs.

Not wanting to carry it around at all (who would even propose such a thing), but it would be good to use when shooting a speech on a stage while being few meters from the camera. A 10m HDMI does the trick in this case (and can hook up the headphones to the monitor).

Am looking forward to your review on the Manhattan.

Cheers :)

Justyn said:
Edy.. wow those are some bold and rather obtuse statements. First of all, I like BenQ, but they are bargain basement electronics so I'm sure it's not that great of a monitor to begin with...

2nd.. It's NOT probably any better scaling quality than the manhattan LCD.. and probably much worse in its color representation and everything else. Probably similar to my Dell 2405...

3rd. Try and mount your 22 inch monitor on a small stand and in the field... or just carry that around in a camerabag. That would be pretty rediculous indeed... and NOT be what this whole thread is about. If you also have a problem with the price of this monitor then you really haven't been in this biz too long... or you might want to check out the Panny line or Marshall for some really expensive models...


you can go to walmart and get a 22 inch poloroid that's cool as a tv monitor, but NOT good as a run and gun field monitor.. I'ts just not designed for that.. and neither is your BenQ... The manhattan one looks great for the price and does have quite a lot of what most of us are looking for at such a reasonable price...


I think the Manhattan people are doing something right.... at a fraction of the cost of other field monitors.. and loooks a lot better built than the ikan monitor.. I certainly will report from my visit. I need to finish up an edit first and then I'm going to check it out. At this price... might be hard to resist...
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I want to bring it to all my shoots... especially for remote ENG stuff and when I'm shooting a greenscreen. Would be also very nice to show footage to clients. Just pull the camera and the monitor out of one bag... viola. Loving this price.
 
i haven't got to try an HDMI cable yet. i wasn't able to grab one on the way home but i'm about to run out right now and get one. i'm curious to if it does pass through audio on the monitor to its headphone ports(it has 2).
 
Here's the million dollar question, how is the Manhattan Monitor priced at $425 when it can display a 1920x1080 picture while the Panasonic's Monitor is priced over $2K and displays a picture at 800 x 480? I feel like I'm missing something here
 
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It's not 1920x1080... It is higher res than the Marshall and similar.. Not sure about the panny.
 
Thanks for the correction Justyn, I see where the Manhattan Monitor is (1024x600).
The Panny is 800 x 450 and is priced at $2,100
Even still, the Manhattan Monitor has a higher res with 1/5th the cost of the Panny! What gives!?!?!
 
doesn't probably have the waveform monitors and such.. as well as build quality and probably not much in terms of calibration.. but who gives a darn..


It's also somewhat a kit that they buy and sell. I'm almost done with another episode so I'll be contacting them soon.
 
I'm so tempted to squeak this onto what's left of my credit card, decisions decisions... If someone could write up a full review, that would be great.
 
I'm gonna check it out... and I noticed that they only had 15 of them left so they won't be around long.... I"ll check them out soon.

cheers all.!
 
edy4eva said:
I reckon a Benq E2200HD like the one I got would do a heaps better job (off a stand that is) than the small 8.9".

It's only $170US or so, 22inches, with all the inputs/outputs I need. Better, when I get down to the edit stage it's a good 3rd monitor.
Ah, the power adapter is integrated too.

No offence to the Manhatten company, they should be selling these small screens for no more than $50US.

I'm getting sick of companies that claim 'specialties' and charge like royalties for things that are worth a fraction. Take the Litepanels for example, their LP-Micro build quality is no match to a rugged garage style 60LED torch (you might argue with me on the quality of the LED's though) sold at 1/12th the price (and it includes rechargeable batteries and a charger).

Oh well. What a world we live in.
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No offense to you ( really) BUT...
- 22" is ridiculous on location because the 8.9 MLCD and the 7.2" ( which is the one I personally use) are mountable on the same tripod or bracket as the camera. 22" is at best, a director's monitor size.
- Most people buying the 8.9 are using it to greatly improve on their flip-out screens without having to spend $3,000 for a camera mountable Marshall or other 'pro' brand.It gets the job done well.
- The dollars/resolution formula doesn't mean anything when portability and practicality are a factor. That's why Pros pay big bucks for hi-rez viewfinders so that they can focus properly on or near the camera.
- Manhattan LCD are new to the Video industry, having gotten a start in packaging kits for DIY projectors. With some guidance, they'll give the big boyz of the monitor biz a run for their money.
- As for "No offence to the Manhatten company, they should be selling these small screens for no more than $50US."
Really? That's less than their cost for what amounts to a custom controller board and yes, a recycled laptop screen. So where are they supposed to make a profit? Keep in mind that they are not a Mega Box Shop with a back office in China. They are an AMERICAN based business and deserve to be properly remunerated for their goods and services.
Agreed that the DIY parts were starting to get pricey, but the time saved by the 8.9 off-the-shelf is worth the premium. It takes me 20-30 hrs to do the enclosure builds.
*FYI- My only connection to MLCD, is I'm writing the user manual for the MST Controller products. Probably do one for the Pixelworks board too.
:nads:
 
Angelcyk said:
Here's the million dollar question, how is the Manhattan Monitor priced at $425 when it can display a 1920x1080 picture while the Panasonic's Monitor is priced over $2K and displays a picture at 800 x 480? I feel like I'm missing something here
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I'll write this just one time.
The cost/resolution formula is worthless. A lot more goes into pricing a monitor that the resolution of the SCREEN.
- LUT (AKA CLUT) matters.
- Latency. Even the pricey Panasonic LCD's exhibit latency, making them less than useful for editing reference
- Features. The MLCD controller boards are re-purposed projector boards so they lack features a pro reference monitor would such as:
• Wave form display
• Blue Gun/ Blue Only
• Audio monitoring etc.
Having said that, the MLCD products are an excellent pricepoint for someone wanting a really good and semi-calibratable focus and framing aid.
 
I know this is not the DVX100 forum, but will I get any benefit from using the Manhattan 8.9" monitor with my DVX100B, given the fact that I can only output with the single composite video output or S-Video? Am I missing something? I have a LCD4Video SD 7" display that is useless for focusing with my Redrock adapter, and am looking for a solution. Thanks!
 
Zephyrnoid said:
I'll write this just one time.
The cost/resolution formula is worthless. A lot more goes into pricing a monitor that the resolution of the SCREEN.
- LUT (AKA CLUT) matters.
- Latency. Even the pricey Panasonic LCD's exhibit latency, making them less than useful for editing reference
- Features. The MLCD controller boards are re-purposed projector boards so they lack features a pro reference monitor would such as:
• Wave form display
• Blue Gun/ Blue Only
• Audio monitoring etc.
Having said that, the MLCD products are an excellent pricepoint for someone wanting a really good and semi-calibratable focus and framing aid.
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I knew there was more to it than just resolution, thanks for the 411!

Justyn also mentioned that it was a "kit", so does that mean it comes in pieces and you just have to put everything together? Or do you have to buy additional parts along with this "kit"? This hasn't been brought up so I guess it's no big deal.
 
it comes as it appears in my photos. along with a remote and power cable. MLCD sells other kits that uses can build cases for.
 
I think that's what it was before... Man. Zeph said it all there and a mouthful. Cheers on that and I'm hoping to pick one up today or Monday. I've been limping along for a while because paying 2k for a field monitor that takes a chance each and everytime I use it... just seemed crazy.. now I might be crazy for not picking one up sooner.
 
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