"It's not over" ... how'd they do it?

[Hawk Teflon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flZ1phdgyZw

This video looks so good to me. "How'd they do that?" I keep asking myself. All I can imagine is keyframing this whole thing card by card. There HAS to be an easier way, though ... RIGHT? For example, the cards seem to come in on a clothesline. How do they get it to look so clean, and have all of the cards acting independently well? The whole time, through everything they do, with every movement, I'm just thinking, "Wow ... this is great! This must have taken forever!" The cards flip from each other, revealing a play in football skipping a few frames. Looks so good! Bah! My head is going to explode!

 

[Jordan_S]

I don't know but I would guess that this was either made with canned effects software or by someone with a mastery of parenting and scripts. It was well-done but I wonder if it helped tell the story or not.

 

[drk3p]

I would say a 3d program's physics simulation was used, or a lot of work.

 

[drk3p]

PS. The video is religious propaganda for fair warning.

 

[Hawk Teflon]

I would say a 3d program's physics simulation was used, or a lot of work.

A lot of work is fine with me. 3D ... not so much.

 

[Derrick_SA]

looks like After effects, and good old keyframing to me, awesomely done.

- Derrick

ps. drk3p, I wouldn't say it's relegious propaganda, rather that it contains religous content.

 

[drk3p]

looks like After effects, and good old keyframing to me, awesomely done.

- Derrick

ps. drk3p, I wouldn't say it's relegious propaganda, rather that it contains religous content.

Giving credit to god for football plays and saving marriage, and maybe relating them both to the death and resurrection of a hercules clone isnt content, its propaganda

Propaganda is the dissemination of information aimed at influencing the opinions or behaviors of people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

 

[Kevin Lee]

drk3p Lets not hijack this thread and turn it into your religious debate. Keep it on track as to the effect being asked about. You end up getting Hawk's original post shut down.

 

[drk3p]

drk3p Lets not hijack this thread and turn it into your religious debate. Keep it on track as to the effect being asked about. You end up getting Hawk's original post shut down.

Your kidding right? Hes Teflon, nothing sticks on him.
But to go back, yeah a lot of work in AE will get your job done.
Gotta love 3d in AE, and with the new p2 plug in, more 3d goodness

 

[djbobbyrhodes]

I would say a 3d program's physics simulation was used, or a lot of work.

I was thinking the same thing. Would be "fairly" easy in a 3D program, compared to keyframing every little motion.

 

[James Thayer]

That was pretty ballin'.

 

[Hawk Teflon]

I was thinking the same thing. Would be "fairly" easy in a 3D program, compared to keyframing every little motion.

I really need to learn a 3d program, if that's the case.

 

[Marc Villafan]

I really need to learn a 3d program, if that's the case.

You wouldn't have to learn too much. Make a plane in blender and animate it being the simplest way and just key framing similar to what you do in After Effects. Ive never animated in Blender but I assume that is how you can animate in it.

 

[Hawk Teflon]

I wish there was a way to import 3d images in AE and have complete 3d control over them.

 

[Marc Villafan]

I wish there was a way to import 3d images in AE and have complete 3d control over them.

So I did a quick test just to see how i can make it look in literally 5 minutes.

I'm leaning towards thinking that this video was done in a 3d program. It wouldn't be worth it to do it in AE imo. With the lights etc, I just think it'll be much easier in a 3d program.


Heres my test.
http://www.swfcabin.com/open/1244133087

 

[drk3p]

I wish there was a way to import 3d images in AE and have complete 3d control over them.

You mean something like this?
http://www.borisfx.com/blue/

 

[Hawk Teflon]

yeah, that would do it, but ... I don't have $2000

 

[Mattykins]

It wouldn't be standard keyframe animating in a 3D app. That would take just as long.

You need to use a dynamics engine. Simulate gravity and all that fun stuff. It would be really easy that way. Let the dynamics engine handle all the sways and stuff.

 

[Hawk Teflon]

It wouldn't be standard keyframe animating in a 3D app. That would take just as long.

You need to use a dynamics engine. Simulate gravity and all that fun stuff. It would be really easy that way. Let the dynamics engine handle all the sways and stuff.

:::blink blink::: huh?

 

[Mattykins]

Haha. Sorry.

Basically if you keyframe it all like in AE then you need to get every single rotation and the sways and everything the card has to go through, by hand.

If you use a dynamics engine on a 3D app. Maya has one that is really powerful. You set the general movement of the card. And then add in simulated gravity, (friction, air turbulence, if needed). And then run the simulation. The cards will then act like they would in real life. You'll need to tweak of course, but the 3D program then handles all the complex animation that would take hours to do in AE.