GH2 It's Here!
- Thread starter stoneinapond
- Start date
aaronsternke
Active member
Just wanted to chime in. GH1 and now GH2 user, have used FCP for years, love it.
Bought FCPX today... am on a family vacation using my GH2, trying to import and work like I normally do in FCP. My observations:
- FCPX is a completely new program. It will feel totally foreign to people familiar with FCP.
- It feels very much like iMovie... many of the same frustrations (for me... a FCP user).
- It has crashed about 5-6 times already, and I'm not doing anything crazy (just basic editing). And I have a brand new i7 macbook pro. Eek?
- Not as many import options. ProRes LT is what I loved using... great compression vs size ratio... now it "automatically" does ProRes, but only if I select "Optimize Clips" when I import... (not intuitive... since in iMovie "optimize clips" meant "make them crappier looking")
- It is difficult to find any information about my sequence... maybe I don't need to know anymore? It just "auto sets it" when you drag the first file there... um...
To me... this seems like a program written and made for people who are brand new to editing video, and want to get involved on a somewhat more professional level, and/or folks who want some more "pro" features who are very familiar with iMovie. Apple seems very proud of themselves in what they've done with iMovie, and doesn't seem to care as much about folks (like myself) who have been using FCP all this time. It really is a shocker, and very difficult to use if you're a FCP nut like myself. It really just has that we-assume-you-don't-know-what-you're-doing-so-we'll-figure-it-out-for-you quality to it that many Apple products have to them. In most cases, this is a major strength of their company. But for a professional application like FCP, it feels like experienced filmmakers have been left in the dust a bit.
Pity!
Anyway that's my opinion after 1 day of using it.
Bought FCPX today... am on a family vacation using my GH2, trying to import and work like I normally do in FCP. My observations:
- FCPX is a completely new program. It will feel totally foreign to people familiar with FCP.
- It feels very much like iMovie... many of the same frustrations (for me... a FCP user).
- It has crashed about 5-6 times already, and I'm not doing anything crazy (just basic editing). And I have a brand new i7 macbook pro. Eek?
- Not as many import options. ProRes LT is what I loved using... great compression vs size ratio... now it "automatically" does ProRes, but only if I select "Optimize Clips" when I import... (not intuitive... since in iMovie "optimize clips" meant "make them crappier looking")
- It is difficult to find any information about my sequence... maybe I don't need to know anymore? It just "auto sets it" when you drag the first file there... um...
To me... this seems like a program written and made for people who are brand new to editing video, and want to get involved on a somewhat more professional level, and/or folks who want some more "pro" features who are very familiar with iMovie. Apple seems very proud of themselves in what they've done with iMovie, and doesn't seem to care as much about folks (like myself) who have been using FCP all this time. It really is a shocker, and very difficult to use if you're a FCP nut like myself. It really just has that we-assume-you-don't-know-what-you're-doing-so-we'll-figure-it-out-for-you quality to it that many Apple products have to them. In most cases, this is a major strength of their company. But for a professional application like FCP, it feels like experienced filmmakers have been left in the dust a bit.
Pity!
Anyway that's my opinion after 1 day of using it.
Would this experience have come as such a shock had it been christened "iMovie Pro X"?
Peter J. DeCrescenzo
Veteran
Essential info for current FCP users: Before installing FCP X!
Read & follow these instructions:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4722
Or, alternatively:
http://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/FCP-10-MAC-Lion/1
(Yeah, I know, too late for most folks, but here ya go ...)
And of course:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/forumdisplay.php?14-Final-Cut-Studio
Read & follow these instructions:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4722
Or, alternatively:
http://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/FCP-10-MAC-Lion/1
(Yeah, I know, too late for most folks, but here ya go ...)
And of course:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/forumdisplay.php?14-Final-Cut-Studio
aaronsternke
Active member
It wouldn't have! That's a great name for it.
wgzn
Veteran
i keep hearing that apple is promising more features in the coming 6 months...
ok, maybe i buy that. but why not just hold off the release for 6 months rather than freaking out or even downright pissing off the entire existing pro user base?
if this is what we're looking forward to from apple's "pro apps" efforts, i may be giving premiere another looking at.
im going to have to call this decision a HUGE FAIL on the part of apple. : (
ok, maybe i buy that. but why not just hold off the release for 6 months rather than freaking out or even downright pissing off the entire existing pro user base?
if this is what we're looking forward to from apple's "pro apps" efforts, i may be giving premiere another looking at.
im going to have to call this decision a HUGE FAIL on the part of apple. : (
Nail in the coffin! For me at least...
Nail in the coffin! For me at least...
Disclaimer: I am by no means a profession videographer, just a guy who likes to dabble in video from time to time.
First off, I'd like to thank those of you who have posted your experiences with FCPX, it's much appreciated. From what I've read thus far my $299 will be better spent elsewhere...
How many of you feel that this is a result of Apple focusing more on consumer gadgets rather than professional software? I mean really, the main reason as to why I purchased a Mac in the first place WAS because of FCP - and the fact that Windows Vista went horribly wrong - but nonetheless I thought Apple had it all figured out.
Then Adobe was first to the game with 64-bit support, and native AVCHD support, and blu-ray support, and on and on.... And then there is Apple's way of dictating what software can be on what, what software developers should use, what SHOULD be important to consumers (no flash, blu-ray), what devices I can use to play my Apple iTunes purchased items, etc...
Basically, the bottom line is I'm over it. I'm going back to Windows 7 with the CS5 suite. With the amount of money I spent on my iMac I could build one hack of a Windows box and still use the same software (Premiere) that I've grown accustomed to over the past six months.
I apologize for the rant, but I really would like to get other people's opinions.
Good editing. Cheers.
P.S. And what's with all the secrets Apple, just give us a heads up on what we should be looking forward to. Maybe some of us wouldn't jump ship if you gave us some direction and stopped the rumor mills. Whew! I feel much better now.
rogar-BigGrin(DBG)
Nail in the coffin! For me at least...
Disclaimer: I am by no means a profession videographer, just a guy who likes to dabble in video from time to time.
First off, I'd like to thank those of you who have posted your experiences with FCPX, it's much appreciated. From what I've read thus far my $299 will be better spent elsewhere...
How many of you feel that this is a result of Apple focusing more on consumer gadgets rather than professional software? I mean really, the main reason as to why I purchased a Mac in the first place WAS because of FCP - and the fact that Windows Vista went horribly wrong - but nonetheless I thought Apple had it all figured out.
Then Adobe was first to the game with 64-bit support, and native AVCHD support, and blu-ray support, and on and on.... And then there is Apple's way of dictating what software can be on what, what software developers should use, what SHOULD be important to consumers (no flash, blu-ray), what devices I can use to play my Apple iTunes purchased items, etc...
Basically, the bottom line is I'm over it. I'm going back to Windows 7 with the CS5 suite. With the amount of money I spent on my iMac I could build one hack of a Windows box and still use the same software (Premiere) that I've grown accustomed to over the past six months.
I apologize for the rant, but I really would like to get other people's opinions.
Good editing. Cheers.
P.S. And what's with all the secrets Apple, just give us a heads up on what we should be looking forward to. Maybe some of us wouldn't jump ship if you gave us some direction and stopped the rumor mills. Whew! I feel much better now.
rogar-BigGrin(DBG)
Last edited:
stoneinapond
Veteran
You see, that's the real problem.
wgzn
Veteran
stoneinapond
Veteran
Well there's a highly relevant figure. :2vrolijk_08:
mshakeshaft
Active member
From the FCP forum:
There is an interesting video on youTube that compares the interface of iMovie and FCPX. It is interesting to see the design similarities and how you can get a 'feel' for FCPX using iMovie. Given that there is no trial of FCPX it may be useful to some people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2zfT...mbedded#at=172
There is an interesting video on youTube that compares the interface of iMovie and FCPX. It is interesting to see the design similarities and how you can get a 'feel' for FCPX using iMovie. Given that there is no trial of FCPX it may be useful to some people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2zfT...mbedded#at=172