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Jannard

Jannard

Red Leader
We are learning about our sensor every day. After returning from IBC, we set out to characterize our sensor. We have learned a lot. We have found more dynamic range (if that was possible) and more sensitivity. We now believe the ISO to be 160. Clean and virtually noiseless. Which makes us believe that pushing it to ISO 800 is a clear reality. We know everyone is impatient to see footage. But we are improving everyday. Relax if you can. We just want to present the best footage we can. Again... we are only 9 months into the project.

Jim
 
Like I mentioned in another thread, I think more and more light will probably be unveiled by this new undertaking (Red), over time.....
 
BTW, I just saw Flyboys (special screening), which I believe was shot with a Genesis camera, and projected flat. It looked awesome, and couldn't tell the difference between that and film. Perhaps, more clean, less noise, and handled filters and grading well. It also produced a similar look/feel as Superman, in my opinion
 
Jim you guys are crazy. So what you are saying is I can shoot in moon light with a flash light and it will have detail. That is just crazy. Good work guys.
 
Push to ISO 800! Good news, I was worried that if it was 100-200 the only way a guy was going to be able to get 120 frames per second with adequate exposure time was to have a monster light package. This also means that when you are shooting available light you could still step the lens down a bit to hit its sweet spot... or step it even further to get a deeper depth of field for when you are juggling everything yourself on some handheld and Steadicam work and would prefer not to try and follow focus with a 2.5" DoF.

Now the ENG folks are going to wonder if it can be pushed to a grainy but usable ISO 1600 or 3200... ummm I wonder if it can be pushed to...?
 
Low light abilities is a major reason for me purchasing my red one camera.

This is incredible news and the man says "relax" just take things easy!!!!

I am going nuts just now red just got better. Surely there comes a time when more good news becomes "impossible"

Michael
 
Wow , That is great news ! I am at around 64 asa with my HVX200/M2/Nikor package.. Great News !
Aloha
-A
 
It is great news! RED is low light camera! Dream tool for all of us Dogma movie makers. Hope it could be pushed beyond 800 ASA? My preference is 1.600 ASA for documentary work. We love you RED crew!
 
Let me step back in and qualify my statement. It now appears to be ISO 160 and acknowledge that measuring ISO can be a tricky thing. We also have more work to do on the sensor.... SO, things can change. The good news is the image is so clean that no matter what... there is a lot to work with.

Jim
 
Wonderfull news. Compliments! With images as good in resolution and latitude as those you show in the gallery and and an ISO 160 rating to start off with a whole new world opens up. If you can accept some degradation of the image, pushing the sensor may be dooable? By how much?

Looking forward to lighting a scene by blocking light, shutting windows instead of generator trucks and Kilowatts a gogo.

Even the workflow seems, at the moment, much less frightening than it looked at the begining of your project.

I don't quite understand how you are doing it but it seems that you are giving a mighty kick in the ass in a very slowly moving cinema and video camera industry. I am looking forward to what else you come up with and how the other players try to catch up. It always felt that they were holding things back. Now they better get into gear.

Keep it up so that we as filmakers can try to make similar advances in the language of film. Every wave of new technolgy has produced different ways of filmaking. I wonder how Red will change cinema and video storytelling? Does anyone have any ideas?
 
Excellent news. Felxability in the ISO range without giving up much in terms of the integrity of the image is most welcome news....
 
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