Iscorama Anamophic Lens Test

I'm not discounting the two above posts (and their very knowledgeable sources) but a couple important points re: rack focusing with the Iscorama:

1. The focus throw is ridiculously long on the lens. The helicoid has a very fine pitch and shifts focus only slightly with each quarter turn. Compaired to a modern Canon lens (which has a tiny focus throw) it's like sailing around the world 2x

2. The rear lens needs to be very well built and not rotate/wobble in EF adapter/bend due to plastic construction (*ahem Nikkor 50 1,8*). .5mm of shift will result in unusable warp of the image due to the anamorphic angle changing during a take with a pull.

3. Your chances of finding a perfect, low drag, and smooth turning Iscorama these days is slim. They were pretty stiff from the factory as far as I've seen. That said, to re-lube the helicoid on these with a thinner lubricant to make turning easier, the front element would need to be opened. Because alignment is so hyper critical on these lenses (and many of the later ones made from plastic) I think a tech is going to be hard pressed to reassemble perfectly to maintain the razor sharpness these things have.


My advise is that if you want an anamorphic lens, and can find a Isco (at a reasonable price), do it. When a shot calls for a true, deep rack focus.... use a different lens and crop it. Then go back to your Isco.

One other note, I found a .75 diopter that came with my old Krasnogorsk-3 kit. Not quite the .5 but a different focal length than the 1 for sure.


 
I guess rack focusing isn't everything WHEN YOU CAN MAKE FLARES!!!!

Besides this is all kind of pioneering at this budget level. It would be cool if ISCO would remake some stuff for the DSLR revolution, the tests I've seen, after post, look really really good for the money.
 
1. The focus throw is ridiculously long on the lens. The helicoid has a very fine pitch and shifts focus only slightly with each quarter turn. Compaired to a modern Canon lens (which has a tiny focus throw) it's like sailing around the world 2x

2. The rear lens needs to be very well built and not rotate/wobble in EF adapter/bend due to plastic construction (*ahem Nikkor 50 1,8*). .5mm of shift will result in unusable warp of the image due to the anamorphic angle changing during a take with a pull.

3. Your chances of finding a perfect, low drag, and smooth turning Iscorama these days is slim. They were pretty stiff from the factory as far as I've seen. That said, to re-lube the helicoid on these with a thinner lubricant to make turning easier, the front element would need to be opened. Because alignment is so hyper critical on these lenses (and many of the later ones made from plastic) I think a tech is going to be hard pressed to reassemble perfectly to maintain the razor sharpness these things have.


My advise is that if you want an anamorphic lens, and can find a Isco (at a reasonable price), do it. When a shot calls for a true, deep rack focus.... use a different lens and crop it. Then go back to your Isco.

One other note, I found a .75 diopter that came with my old Krasnogorsk-3 kit. Not quite the .5 but a different focal length than the 1 for sure.



1. Agreed

2. Agreed

3. Agreed

I agree with everything said here and stick to my position that - although not impossible - a focus rack with the Iscorama is very difficult.

I can also confirm - from personal experience - the point about the Nikkor 50 f/1.8.
 
With small 16mm projection lenses on APS-C and lets say 58mm lens you can catch infinity too if you will stop down 58mm lens ,50mm lens would work with 42mm rear diameter anamorphic too but will cause dark corners in low light situations,on exteriors its good,you would have to crop it anyway from 3:1 to 2,5:1 or 2,35:1 so you will get rid of the corners.
Some frame grabs non cropped..
http://i47.tinypic.com/28as1z5.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/10ctcwo.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/juy3pc.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/24eywzp.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/mcujvc.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/2qsz7.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/29qin3d.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/2clc9w.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/2rhtiso.jpg
 
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With small 16mm projection lenses on APS-C and lets say 58mm lens you can catch infinity too if you will stop down 58mm lens ,50mm lens would work with 42mm rear diameter anamorphic too but will cause dark corners in low light situations,on exteriors its good,you would have to crop it anyway from 3:1 to 2,5:1 or 2,35:1 so you will get rid of the corners.
Some frame grabs non cropped..
http://i47.tinypic.com/28as1z5.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/10ctcwo.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/juy3pc.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/24eywzp.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/mcujvc.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/2qsz7.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/29qin3d.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/2clc9w.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/2rhtiso.jpg

Those are some pretty sweet grabs. Can we see this in motion?

This Kowa has a standard thread, 43mm diameter. I tested and it screws in perfectly with a 43mm to 52mm step down.

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Now just have to wait till black friday and see what kind of HV40 deals are out there.
 
One of my isco 36's has a really loose rack focusable ring the other is really stiff, maybe it's been lubed go figure.
 
I have whole "making of" but its 435 mb (over 20 minutes),also some short edit from what i had (only 11 mb) that i made just for fun (cause short was recorded on 7D not on my cam).
Heres 435 mb ,3:1 aspect ratio
http://www.zshare.net/video/686077093300eacf/

and 11 mb edit cropped to 2,5:1

http://www.zshare.net/video/6862215397f5fe8f/

Better download cause web player doesnt have supoprt for wide resolutions and video is cropped+stretched.
It was all on 58mm lens, its without sound.

34xg9hz.jpg
 
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I've spent a long time looking for details of this isco 2005 with no luck at all. Strange it doesn't have the same ISCO_GOTTINGEN motif of other ISCO lenses. It does say MC so its multi coated. I guess that means less or no flares?

Did ISCO manufacture anamorphics as late as 2005? It looks a bit beat up to be only 4 years old. Also looks to be all plastic. Have there been any fakes?

If it's real, what camera would it have been made for? 16mm? 8mm? My guess is it wouldn't work on a 5d without vignetting.

If it were $200 I'd have a punt to find out but $1100 is a lot to pay for an experiment!
 
I forced my proskar(42mm rear diameter) to work with 50mm lens, i removed front thread from 50mm so i can have anamorphic attachment closer to front lens of 50mm.
Anyway i dont know i dont quite like it because focus appears deeper than with 58mm which has longer focus throw,with 50mm you get barrel distortion and anamorphic perspective though.I had it closed to f2.8 but ill try again with fully opened lens and if wont like outcome again then i will come back to 58mm.
If someone is thinking about using those attachments for 16mm projection with 42mm rear element then you can see how it looks like with 50mm f1.8 lens , maybe with 1.4 lens it would be more shallow....
http://i50.tinypic.com/2iru0ea.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/rba0c6.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/27x2u83.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/10emz2d.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/v75ztk.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/2vj4img.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/208xvnd.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/xmogt4.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/1zmct5d.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/2dlqkr8.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/2l979ef.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/vy1lc9.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/24n2m10.jpg

On first pic you can see how far you can focus on person,its the maximum distance to focus on my 50mm lens and anamorphic,if you want to focus on longer distance from lens then you have to stop down to f 11 or something.Then you have everything in focus.
Bokeh is kinda shi*ty with 50mm.Yes i forgot mattebox (again).Its on APS-C sensor.
 
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How about vistascope? Anyone knows where we could get such prisms ?
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/widescreen_home-movies4.htm

If only canon would let us record video in original aspect ratio of their sensor, 3:2 then it would be much better.I guess they chose to crop to 16:9 to fit in 1920 x1080p ,they could try 1440x1080 and record whole sensor non cropped to 16:9, maybe new firmware request ?
That would be almost perfect ratio for anamorphic 4 perf frame on APS-C , because of 16:9 crop in video we have 3 perforations frame size.
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/apertures.htm
 
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I bought it! It´s a very rare 35mm Iscorama Lens which complete my selection to the isco 42 adapter now. (The 42 works only on 50mm < without a vignette). Last Year someone did sell the same Lens in the US for 3000$.

Best regards, Philip
 
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