Is there a mirror in the 7D? or is it mirrorless like GH1?

ydgmdlu said:
Indeed, but isn't that true of all video cameras? The 7D is still a stills camera first. That's why the mirror box is there. If it were the other way around, then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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Which brings up a good point. Maybe Canon should think about introducing a dedicated video camera that uses a 1.6 crop sensor and a removable EOS mount.

Basically I'm talking about an XL-H1 update with a 1.6 crop sensor. Give it 2k resolution, variable frame rates (1-60fps), XLR audio, adobe Cinema DNG and maybe a new mount that takes video EOS lenses with powered zoom and video AF. Then we're all set. EOS adapter sold separately.

Of course that puts them into an entirely new market. Right now they build ENG cameras and still cameras with video bonus features. A camera like I'm talking about above would only have one purpose (cinema).

But you never know, they're sort of dipping their feet in that water right now with these HDSLR's. They just don't have to admit it since they can call them still cameras.
 
ydgmdlu said:
Indeed, but isn't that true of all video cameras? The 7D is still a stills camera first. That's why the mirror box is there. If it were the other way around, then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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Threads are buzzing because of its video capabilities not its still capabilities.

Dumping the mirror opens up a wider scope of lenses but the best reason is so the EVF/LCD can show the image at the ISO you are shooting at.
 
J Davis said:
Threads are buzzing because of its video capabilities not its still capabilities.
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http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/809801

Keep in mind that you're on a video forum. Photography forums are looking at this camera differently.

I tried to get into a discussion about the 7D's video features with the photographer I work with (I do video, he does photography here) and he sort of shrugged his shoulders and was like "that's cool, nice to have that option" and then went on talking about the 19 point AF and the built in flash.
 
And bear in mind 'togs have a deep and abiding hatred for EVFs. Canon aren't going to alienate their core (Despite what people here think) markets by sticking an EVF in a low-number EOS DSLR.
Dave
 
Since the mirror flips up, out of the way in live view, I think a new wishlist for Hudson to crack in fw is a new function to be able to keep the mirror flipped up at all times, that way we can stick any lens on there with a proper adapter and not worry about cracking it.
 
The cameras are built to handle the abuse. I used to shoot sports on the 1D Mk I and Mk II, which shot at 8.5 fps. The Mk III shoots at 10 fps. Within a year there were 50,000 actuations on the camera and it worked just as good as day 1.

If Canon kills the optical viewfinder, they will lose pro photographers. Some things are non-negotiable.


Dumping the mirror opens up a wider scope of lenses but the best reason is so the EVF/LCD can show the image at the ISO you are shooting at.
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Agree that you'll be able to use a wider scope of lenses, but the latter is irrelevant. The light meter in the optical viewfinder is faster/more accurate than any EVF you could throw in there.

Photojournalism is all about speed, and a mere millisecond of lag time found on EVFs is enough to "lose" the shot.

Hopefully Canon will do what I've been dreaming of before VDSLRs existed - S35/1.6x crop sensor with EF mount on a video body similar to their XL or XH lines, with robust codec.

It would refine the indy market much the same way the DVX100 did.
 
As a photographer as well I'd rather have an optical viewfinder. Toss in AF while videoing and I'll be paying your kids college tuition with returned service no doubt haha
 
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