Stu Siegal
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+1
Is the AF-100 still doing well
- Thread starter Jay A. Kelley
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Jan_Crittenden
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The AF100 continues to do well. As far as rentals being slow, frankly I wouldn't see a need for this in a rental situation, as it is so inexpensive, why not just buy it. A couple of weeks of rental and you would own one, or at least be half way there. We are going to be starting a tour with our dealers soon so keep an eye out for a show near you. At this point I still fully believe that the AF100 offers the best cost-performance ratio.
Be happy Jay, go make money with it, let the rumor mongers dwell where they are.
Best,
Jan
Be happy Jay, go make money with it, let the rumor mongers dwell where they are.
Best,
Jan
Jay A. Kelley
Well-known member
Ok. With Jan's answer I will jump back in here (Thanks for answering Jan). I have two friends who are getting ready to pull the trigger on buying a couple cameras.. They came to me asking about the AF-100 and so forth.. One of my buddies starting saying that he was getting turned off the AF-100 due to the information I posted at the beginning of this thread. I am a Panasonic guy, so I am bias, however when he started throwing all this bogus info he had been fed, I was just not sure how to respond other than "Well , I love it.. And I OWN it"
I suppose the only real solution is the one I chose: I gave him my camera for a couple days to play with. That should dispel the rumors.
Jay
As for the rentals.. Good point.. I'll use that one for sure.
Paul Hudson
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I will say this: I have several cameras and they are all used for business. These cameras range from the very cheap (GoPro Hero) to the not so cheap (RED ONE MX). When I am given my choice for a high quality image from a camera that is easy to use, very light and requires little support I will pick the AF-100 every time.
owaltec
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Barry_Green
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I think that's the point.
Matt Gottshalk
Resident Preditor
There you go.
Rick Burnett
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I think the birger mount is a VERY fair point. There are a lot of people that just happen to have a lot of EOS glass that are waiting that I know of specifically. In addition, you've got to think about the people buying these. They are NOT all DSLR converts. These are people shooting on the HVX or EX1 or what have you that have ONE lens, built in. MANY people I've talked to just don't feel comfortable enough yet to make that change as for them, there are a lot of unknowns. The focus, iris, zoom, etc is just not the same as what they are used to using, and as amazing as it might sound, they don't actually know a lot about lenses since they just used what the camera had in the past.
EVERY shoot I have been on with my AF100 or my FS100 has had the SAME response. People love both of them. People ask a million questions about them. People tell me they can't wait to get one of them. I get calls from editors asking which camera I used because they LOVED the look. And this is both cameras, not just one of them.
While there might not be anything new with the AF100/FS100 technology wise, it's a hybrid that is changing the way traditional video camera users are used to working. Now they have to think about the lens.
I think both these cameras are going to be hot for a long time. Until their next gens replace them, and even then, as the price point lowers for "last years model" people will be taking that plunge to get in.
EVERY shoot I have been on with my AF100 or my FS100 has had the SAME response. People love both of them. People ask a million questions about them. People tell me they can't wait to get one of them. I get calls from editors asking which camera I used because they LOVED the look. And this is both cameras, not just one of them.
While there might not be anything new with the AF100/FS100 technology wise, it's a hybrid that is changing the way traditional video camera users are used to working. Now they have to think about the lens.
I think both these cameras are going to be hot for a long time. Until their next gens replace them, and even then, as the price point lowers for "last years model" people will be taking that plunge to get in.
Dino
Veteran
My view, as a small rental house, is that our AF100's were on fire in January, then got back to normal rental levels thereafter--pretty constant through June.
While I'm pleased with how many corporate projects have been shot with our AF100's, I have seen less indie filmmakers than I expected(less than rented our Letus Ultimate DOF adapters when they were hot). I believe this is due to the ownership of DSLR's amongst indies because of low price and being on the market for awhile. The Canon DSLR's are really a cultural phenomenon at this point, even if not necessarily the best choice or value for many projects.
While I'm pleased with how many corporate projects have been shot with our AF100's, I have seen less indie filmmakers than I expected(less than rented our Letus Ultimate DOF adapters when they were hot). I believe this is due to the ownership of DSLR's amongst indies because of low price and being on the market for awhile. The Canon DSLR's are really a cultural phenomenon at this point, even if not necessarily the best choice or value for many projects.
Matt Gottshalk
Resident Preditor
Both of mine paid for themselves rather fast.
Was one of the better business decisions I've made.
Was one of the better business decisions I've made.
Paul Hudson
Vacuum Tube Member
That is exactly the point Barry. Why don't you guys see if you can tell.
jgastelb
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I'm sorry but I have to state the obvious...the overexposure in this video doesn't show either of the cameras in the best light. No pun intended. Skin tones are so out of whack. Yikes!!!!
Mitch Gross
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It's doing just fine, thanks.
Paul Hudson
Vacuum Tube Member
No color correction done yet. Thanks for the kind and completely obvious input. Next.
Same could be said of the 5D / 7D .. but, yet, we rent the heck out of ours. Mostly because we have the "usual" glass and
accessories.
Granted, we rent mostly to the indie film community .. and they know the 5D/7D very well. The AF100 represents
a learning curve. Wanna put a quick shoot together with a bunch of 5D/7D ops .. piece-of-cake .. Wanna do the
same with the AF100 .. well .. there's lots of questions about what the camera can do and the best lenses etc and
the MFT format itself.
I'm not suggesting this is uniformly true everywhere .. but where we are .. that's pretty much the way it is.
And that takes nothing away from the AF100.
jeff
jgastelb
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No worries.
FilmEquipmentHire
New member
The 5D kits are still renting better than the AF101, partly, as already mentioned, people know the camera, but partly because of the lack of options on a zoom. We eventually got the Lumix lenses after waiting for the Birger adapter, but customers are not so familar with these so a bit aprehensive to try them. I think if the Birger EOS mount was available it would make a considerable difference. The AF101 looked good on the latest "Great camera shoot-out", very nice on detail and colour compared to other cameras in the test, particulary the DSLR's,
Colin
Colin
That patch is no joke...I tried it and I lost 40lbs, gained 3" flaccid, and my phone now rings off the hook with chicks wanting me to sire their children. Thanks AF100!