1DC: Is the 1D C relevant anymore?

I use mine all of the time. It is my primary stills camera, B-Camera to my Canon C300 (in super 35 mode), and A-Camera for shoots that require 4k/24p. It really is a versatile camera that I find myself using in many different scenarios.
 
If a 1D C is no longer relevant, I don't see how a 5D mkIV with 4K could be relevant either, and yet it's what everyone is asking for.
 
Hi,

I just bought a second hand one recently to go along with my Canon C300 (mark 1), and to use as an A camera when I don't want to take the C300. I love it. The images (both stills and video) from it are wonderful.

Like you I wondered if it was a good idea to buy, given that it's a few years old, but I'm really pleased with it.
 
I had a shot yesterday, and I choose to rent it because if was a mix between video and stop motion, and I wanted 4K ; and I like canon so I decided to go with it.

Pretty nice to use, but I was a bit disappointed with the noise amount....I was in control of my light all the time, and exposed C-LOG as i'm used too with my C100 MKII, used native 400ISO...and still, my coloured backgrounds had quite some noise in them...I wonder if I did something wrong but I don't know what !

edit : even after grading I mean
 
coutard said:
Pretty nice to use, but I was a bit disappointed with the noise amount....I was in control of my light all the time, and exposed C-LOG as i'm used too with my C100 MKII, used native 400ISO...and still, my coloured backgrounds had quite some noise in them...I wonder if I did something wrong but I don't know what !
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I have zero issues with noise, but I've learned that people have wildly different opinions on what is 'low' or 'high'. ISO 400 should be very clean.

For real feedback you should probably upload a frame for evaluation.
 
coutard said:
I had a shot yesterday, and I choose to rent it because if was a mix between video and stop motion, and I wanted 4K ; and I like canon so I decided to go with it.

Pretty nice to use, but I was a bit disappointed with the noise amount....I was in control of my light all the time, and exposed C-LOG as i'm used too with my C100 MKII, used native 400ISO...and still, my coloured backgrounds had quite some noise in them...I wonder if I did something wrong but I don't know what !

edit : even after grading I mean
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I don't know without seeing it, but I generally tried to stay away from 400ISO on the 1DC in Clog. Increasing the ISO tended to break up fixed pattern noise and banding that I found distracting.
 
Canon 1D C is very relevant! It's my "Go to Camera". It just produces great moving images! Some 4K, but most of the time using S35 mode.
 
So glad I asked. I just bought one second hand and received it today! So excited. How do you guys typically expose for this camera?
 
cpreston said:
I don't know without seeing it, but I generally tried to stay away from 400ISO on the 1DC in Clog. Increasing the ISO tended to break up fixed pattern noise and banding that I found distracting.
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really ?? s*** ! I forced myself to stay at 400 because all advices I read about was that when going higher than 400, banding and noise would appear ...
 
It's the opposite regarding the banding...some users reported anything lower than 400 causes it.
 
On the C100, banding sometimes occurs when you go below ISO 850. But only sometimes, and you can generally notice it on the LCD screen. So the simple solution is to go back to ISO 850 when you notice banding, and to go below 850 ISO when you want to and don't notice banding.

Below 850 ISO you get cleaner footage, particularly in the blacks (as you gain dynamic range in the shadows), at the cost of less dynamic range in the highlights. So, when to go below ISO 850 depends on your shot.
 
coutard said:
really ?? s*** ! I forced myself to stay at 400 because all advices I read about was that when going higher than 400, banding and noise would appear ...
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Personally, I'd always shoot at 400 and increase only when necessary. Never below 400. You CAN set ISO below 400 in Canon Log, but since the camera does an internal 'pull exposure' in Log mode, you will never hit IRE100 no matter how much you over expose. You'll probably not even go above 80 or so. Try setting ISO to 100 in Canon Log and then over expose while looking at the histogram.

So, with contradictory advice regarding ISO, the solution is always simple: do your own tests and draw your own conclusions.
 
Quite a bit depends on the white balance and noise reduction in camera. Dim halogen lighting is about the worst for getting an image that looks clean. Personally, I've just found that the Canon cinema cameras are pretty adept at handling a few stops of gain over base ISO without a noticeable hit in image quality. Also, some weird quirks in the compression can appear without a a decent amount of noise to break it up. Therefore, I tend to shoot for 800 ISO when recording internally.
 
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