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Narrative I think its for use only intentionally. Corporate/b-roll/docu/music video I think primarily because it looks good and changes perspective (more on that in a second).

Though I think visually humans are drawn to what looks like what we aren't used to seeing. This is why drone footage looks so appealing instantly. It's a new perspective. Same with shallow DoF. And, same with slow motion. All of these can be and tend to get grossly overused as such. However, it shows us something new and that is often captivating, because it's "surreal". Even the motion cadence of 24p. When it's subtle slow motion, I don't even know if it could be considered a gag as much as a lens choice, really. Maybe I'm crazy?

I think slow motion VS subtle slomo are almost two distinct categories. IMO. When I see a video shot all in 120fps slow motion its a gag. When I see a video that uses a lot of subtle slow motion, it sort of fades into the film and gives it a look and feel of its own.

Full circle to the reason to use in corporate/docu etc. - I do think it slows the viewer down. Real life happens so fast. It's a tool to focus someone on something. Often times talking heads are discussing something. Say a whiteboard and marker. Or a customer interaction. Or the construction of a water well. A little subtle slow motion focuses the viewer more on the words because it gives them a little time to take in the action. It makes the moment seem illustrative rather than "reality lens". Same way shallow DoF or lighting does. It draws attention. I dunno, I like the feel of it.

Not for everything, but I suppose I am questioning if used well, even if extensively, if it's really a gag? And if it is, why isn't standard DoF use, lighting, 24p 180 shutter motion blur, or other such standard techniques also a gag?

Who knows, maybe it IS a crutch because things instantly look better with a bit of slow motion so it could be a form of "cheating" to compensate for less than idyllic everything else.
 
Slomo is the visual equivalent of the wah-wah pedal.
Way over abused by amateurs in the beginning.
Later, you learn to dose it with other effects in order to underline your theme.
A bit like sliders. So five years ago.
 
James0b57 said:
Classic RnG. Posting links with no opinion. “Here! Random slomo video from Vimeo, you know, because you guys are talking about slomo. “
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Well, I thought this one might be self-evident. The whole point of the video was slow-mo. Without it, it's just waves in real-time. But in slow-mo, it's pretty mesmerizing and revealing. As filmguy said, it's captivating and makes you want to watch and take it all in and study it and appreciate it in a way you can't in real life.

As far as my opinion on slow-mo, yes, it can be overused, just like anything else. I also live in the sports production world(mostly) and slow-mo is bread and butter... But I probably shoot less slow-mo than a lot of my peers.
 
Run&Gun said:
Well, I thought this one might be self-evident. The whole point of the video was slow-mo. Without it, it's just waves in real-time. But in slow-mo, it's pretty mesmerizing and revealing. As filmguy said, it's captivating and makes you want to watch and take it all in and study it and appreciate it in a way you can't in real life.

As far as my opinion on slow-mo, yes, it can be overused, just like anything else. I also live in the sports production world(mostly) and slow-mo is bread and butter... But I probably shoot less slow-mo than a lot of my peers.
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Beautifully put, and well thought out.
 
That wasn’t sarcasm. I do appreciate RnG taking the time to post their thoughts, and despite me being a playful arse, RnG replied with earnest and intelligence.
 
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For me, as a filmmaker, slow motion is an effect. Like all effects, if it has intention and is motivated to enhance the visual story, brilliant. If its used indiscriminately, all of the time, I despise it.
The Slow Motion guys channel on YT is a blast, those guys are great and I love how they enhance it with sound design, some British humor and crazy ideas, it's totally motivated for them. But if
I have to endure one more demo reel, YT random product demo video that is shot in ALL slow motion, I'm going to lose it. It's just so tasteless and weak.

Same with unmotivated speed ramping all over the place, I hate that just as much, if not more.
 
James0b57 said:
That wasn’t sarcasm. I do appreciate RnG taking the time to post their thoughts, and despite me being a playful arse, RnG replied with ernest and intelligence.
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All good. I'm a smart@ss and have run with Olympic Class SA's my whole life. If you're gonna work in this business, you better be able to dish it, take it and embrace it.

And I was gonna throw out a "Go VariCam...", too. But that wouldn't make any sense, now. Lol
 
Run&Gun said:
All good. I'm a smart@ss and have run with Olympic Class SA's my whole life. If you're gonna work in this business, you better be able to dish it, take it and embrace it.

And I was gonna throw out a "Go VariCam...", too. But that wouldn't make any sense, now. Lol
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You are one of the most solid people on here.
 
When "Koyaanisqatsi" came out in 1982, it was hailed for its time-lapse images. Nowadays, almost anyone can do time lapse. The novelty worn itself out long ago.

As to slow-mo, my introduction to it was from the 1970 World Cup, where it was also combined with the color telecast. The replay was provided mostly for goals and the goalkeeping saves. Its uniqueness was pretty much gone by the 1978 World Cup, although the technology kept improving and, during the 1984 Olympics, ABC brought out the Super Slo-Mo.

Now the new Huawei Mate 30 has 7680 fps ... although it's a bit different than your typical slo-mo.

https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_exp...80fps_slowmotion_video_capture-news-39316.php
 
That trilogy used most of their techniques with purpose. I don’t think it was purely novelty.

The Huawei phone is looking amazing. A baby phantom.
 
I do like Phantom level ultra slow motion, probably mainly because I am a gun guy and the thought of seeing projectiles, hits, things exploding and blowing up in 10k fps or greater,
is kind of fascinating, it's the only way to truly understand the physics involved, when you can see what's actually going on. I used to be a fan History Channels Top Shot and wrote a story on
the BTS production and had a chance to go to set where they did exactly that and it was really innovative how they were utilizing the Phantoms and ultra slow motion into their entertainment programming.

 
DLD said:
When "Koyaanisqatsi" came out in 1982, it was hailed for its time-lapse images. Nowadays, almost anyone can do time lapse. The novelty worn itself out long ago.

As to slow-mo, my introduction to it was from the 1970 World Cup, where it was also combined with the color telecast. The replay was provided mostly for goals and the goalkeeping saves. Its uniqueness was pretty much gone by the 1978 World Cup, although the technology kept improving and, during the 1984 Olympics, ABC brought out the Super Slo-Mo.

Now the new Huawei Mate 30 has 7680 fps ... although it's a bit different than your typical slo-mo.

https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_exp...80fps_slowmotion_video_capture-news-39316.php
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The so-called 7680fps mode is actually motion interpolated from native 1920fps capture. And in 1920fps mode, the actual readout resolution is around 240P.
 
Zelares said:
I don't do professional photo shoots, but even I, with my amateur macro photography, can say that since the iPhone 7, people have had the opportunity to do semi-professional photo shoots on mobile devices and macro photography, almost indistinguishable from shooting on prison cameras
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Was that gen pop or solitary?
 
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