IKAN 8000 HD LCD monitor

I played with all the monitors at NAB extensively. The Panny's are best but those are rentals for me, just too expensive. The Varizoom, and Ikan were not much better than a cheap DVD player. I have never been a real fan of the Marshall and was hoping for something better and IMHO the Nebtek is easily better. Same resolution but it was easy for TACK SHARP focus, something nothing but the Panny has been for me.




ash =o)
 
Others really like the Ikan.

Could you explain why you say that it was "not much better than a cheap DVD player?"
 
Because it is...to me anyway. I have seen some DVD players with s-video in that look just as good as the IKAN. The IKAN is just not good enough for sharp focus in HD. It will get you close with the stock HVX but not tack sharp and with an adapter, you can forget it. If you set the Ikan side by side I think pretty much anyone could see it is inferior to the Marshall and the Nebtek. That should not be insulting or even a shock because it is half the price. You get what you pay for...



ash =o)
 
hi, im new to these monitors. I know the mashall and the ikan but i dont know much about the nebtek and panasonic. Which nebtek and which panasonic models are u refering to?
 
deedive said:
hi, im new to these monitors. I know the mashall and the ikan but i dont know much about the nebtek and panasonic. Which nebtek and which panasonic models are u refering to?
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I don't know much about the nebtek, but the panasonic being referred to is the BTLH80W. It has the same resolution as the other mentioned lcd's but it has some cool focus assist features like "focus-in-red." Panny MSRP is $2900 I think, but B&H and Abel Cine have it listed as $2200 (not available though). Think it should be out next month.

I'd like to know more about the nebtek as well. If anyone has a link or a model number we could search that would be cool.
 
As I stated earlier in this thread, I also thought the IKAN looked like garbage- terrible colors, bad contrast, and not very sharp picture. I really WANT to be able to use an $800 LCD for focusing w/ DOF adaptors, but I don't think this one will cut it for me.

The Nebtek isn't out yet, but they had a prototype at NAB. The colors and contract looked about the same as the Marshall (to me) but had 2 levels of 'detail' that you could turn on to assist focusing. I thought it was a step ahead of the Marshall, and a good bit brighter as well. Oh, it also had image flip built in.

-Tom
 
tomk358 said:
As I stated earlier in this thread, I also thought the IKAN looked like garbage- terrible colors, bad contrast, and not very sharp picture. I really WANT to be able to use an $800 LCD for focusing w/ DOF adaptors, but I don't think this one will cut it for me.

The Nebtek isn't out yet, but they had a prototype at NAB. The colors and contract looked about the same as the Marshall (to me) but had 2 levels of 'detail' that you could turn on to assist focusing. I thought it was a step ahead of the Marshall, and a good bit brighter as well. Oh, it also had image flip built in.

-Tom
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I concur on all points... I sat the Marshall next to the Nebtek and A/Bed them and everyone there thought the Nebtek was better. It DOES cost a little more.



ash =o)
 
Thanks for the QR, I'll keep a look out..... need a solution and like the brightness comment you made.
 
View attachment HDSDI Cut Sheet-2 (1).pdf
I got these specs from a NEBTEK cut sheet, I attached a pdf above, with some pictures

MONITOR HIGHLIGHTS
• 7” Active Matrix HD - TFT/LCD
• 16:9, 4:3, & Anamorphic Formats
• Detail Function for Critical Focus
• Blue Screen & Underscan
• Horizontal & Vertical Image Flip
(Daydream Monitor Only)
• NTSC/PAL Auto Selection
• Multi-Position Connector Box
• Accepts All Major Battery Mounts
• Top, Bottom or Side Mountable
• Anti-glare Acrylic Screen Protector
• Rugged Build Aluminum Housing
• Extreme Brightness Panel
(Sunshine Daydream Only)
SPECIFICATIONS
4:3, 16:9, & Anamorphic including
4 Different Display Modes.
NTSC/PAL Auto Selection.
Contrast, Color, Brightness, & Tint
Focus Detail, Blue Screen & Underscan
Functions.
Horizontal & Vertical Image Flip:
(Daydream Monitor Only)
HD Component & SDI Connections.
Resolution: 800 x 480
Pixels: 1.2 million (RGB)
Brightness ( NIT = Candelas)
Daydream: 350 NIT
Sunshine Daydream: 600 NIT
Contrast Ratio: 400 to 1
Power Supply: 12V~30V regulated
Power Consumption: >1A
Usage Temp: -20C ~ 70C
Storage Temp: -30C ~ 80C
Humidity: 75% RH or less @ 60C
Dimensions: 7.5 x 5 x 3 inches
Weight: 2.6 lbs
NEBTEK DAYDREAM-HD and SUNSHINE
DAYDREAM-HD Camera Monitors.
They have been designed by the Film & Video Professionals at NEBTEK
with the needs of our customers in mind... Professional Composite, Svideo
and Component Connections, every major battery mounting option
available, 4 Display Modes, Underscan, Bluescreen, and a Detail function
(to allow for those critical focus situations). All of our standard features
are present as well... Excellent Picture Quality, Wide Viewing Angles,
High Brightness (600 NIT Sunshine Daydream), Non-reflective/Anti-glare
Screens, and 10V to 30V power compatability. The Top, Bottom & Side
mounts allow for a wider range of mounting options. The multi-position
Professional Connector Box allows your cables to come straight off
the back (for Steadicam use), or be hidden behind the monitor (for On
Camera Use). It also offers a Vertical & Horizontal Image flip (Daydream
model only) making it an excellent choice for use with a Lens Adapter.
 
If you mean calibration: color bars and blue burst is the answer. There are several sites that'll walk you through proper calibration - it ain't rocket science, but essential. If your monitor can't quite calibrate properly, well - you get what you pay for. But check your connections too. If you really mean color correction my answer is three letters: CRT. CRT's show a greater contrast and color range than any LCD. Absolutely necessary for film out work or high con work. Whenever possible use a wave form/ vector scope as LCD's especially outside can be deceiving. Unfortunately, the world's going to the flat side, now for broadcast I use both. LCD's exagerrate any noise issues you have, especially worrisome with the HVX (criminally noisy) that often don't reveal themselves in CRT's. But CRT's give you the range. Most post houses have both in the CC room, so you can srtike a compromise. Love LCD's but there're a lot of issues that really blow.

Tim Naylor DP
www.timnaylor.com
 
I'm wondering too. Just checked resellerratings.com and they aren't on it. At least I couldn't find them.

But... they are on the ikancorp.com website as a reseller sooo.
 
I'm in the market for a high definition on camera monitor. I’ve recently acquired an M2 and absolutely love what it has done to the look of the footage. The issue now is focus. I find it impossible to achieve with my Ikan V 7000 that I purchased with my Glidecam V16. Its very light weight (a plus) but the image quality is poor – focus almost impossible. The V7000 was not purchased with the intent to accomplish critical focus. The monitor serves its main function well - framing while using the V16.

The IKAN 8000 HD seemed like the obvious choice. Over the course of the past few weeks I have considered the opinions of many of the experienced users here. The battle of opinions seems to focus (punned intended) on cost vs. quality of build vs. features. There are so many opinions and so much to consider. I’ve noticed that everything written is dependent on the needs of the user.

I have to choose quality over price. Professional options, durability, quality of build, and many other factors are the main reasons I feel that I should wait for the Panasonic, Marshall and Nebtek monitors to be released. The Panasonic, Marshall and Nebtek monitors cost more certainly, but I rather wait and spend my hard earned money right. A June or July release is not that far away and it gives me time to save a few more of those precious dollars. I’m inclined to go Panasonic based on the red focus option alone.

I place more weight on the opinion of many of you that back up their opinions with stills and video clips of your work. There are so many of you out there that have unwittingly been responsible for my move from DVX to HVX to M2, etc…

The insight, knowledge and inspiration I have been so fortunate to acquire here is invaluable.

Thanks to all of you.
 
i just got my brevis 35mm adapter a few days ago and will be posting pics from my ikan within a few days...
 
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