Hyperdeck Shuttle 2 now does ProRes.

This really is fantastic news. When the Hyperdeck Shuttle was announced at NAB 2011 we all thought that it was such an amazingly cool device at such an amazingly low price. Then it sank in that it recorded uncompressed so while it was a cool device it was of no use to about 99% of us. Now with ProRes it is once again an amazingly cool device at an amazingly low price. It will be a match made in heaven once the new firmware for the 5D3 gives clean HDMI out & also looks like a great option for the C100 to record in C300 quality direct to ProRes. Hell it even looks like a great option to use with the C300 & record direct to ProRes.
 
That is great! Has anyone done extensive testing with the uncompressed 8 bit out of the c300? Wondering if its worth it for the higher quality files.
 
jm.gardiner said:
That is great! Has anyone done extensive testing with the uncompressed 8 bit out of the c300? Wondering if its worth it for the higher quality files.
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The files are nice, but the improvement is really only incremental. I would probably only use it for green-screen, or footage that I had to underexpose for some reason. Canon's XF codec is really amazingly robust, and stacks up well against native ProRes files. My biggest problems with the Shuttle are that it doesn't recognize start/stop flags and also can't remove pulldown. So every roll, you'll have to hit record on camera, and on the shuttle. Then in post, you'll have to remove the pulldown with something like compressor or JES deinterlacer since the C300 only outputs 24p over 60i through it's HD-SDI & HDMI ports. Also, it really needs some sort of external power solution.

All those things make me think that the Samurai is a better bet because it does recognize the start/stop flags, it removes pulldown, and takes Sony-style NP batteries that are easy to find and are pretty cheap, especially third party ones. But you do have to pay about $1k more for it vs the Shuttle...
 
cowpunk52 said:
The files are nice, but the improvement is really only incremental. I would probably only use it for green-screen, or footage that I had to underexpose for some reason. Canon's XF codec is really amazingly robust, and stacks up well against native ProRes files. My biggest problems with the Shuttle are that it doesn't recognize start/stop flags and also can't remove pulldown. So every roll, you'll have to hit record on camera, and on the shuttle. Then in post, you'll have to remove the pulldown with something like compressor or JES deinterlacer since the C300 only outputs 24p over 60i through it's HD-SDI & HDMI ports. Also, it really needs some sort of external power solution.

All those things make me think that the Samurai is a better bet because it does recognize the start/stop flags, it removes pulldown, and takes Sony-style NP batteries that are easy to find and are pretty cheap, especially third party ones. But you do have to pay about $1k more for it vs the Shuttle...
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hope we can get that from blackmagic through firmware...
 
cowpunk52 said:
The files are nice, but the improvement is really only incremental. I would probably only use it for green-screen, or footage that I had to underexpose for some reason. Canon's XF codec is really amazingly robust, and stacks up well against native ProRes files. My biggest problems with the Shuttle are that it doesn't recognize start/stop flags and also can't remove pulldown. So every roll, you'll have to hit record on camera, and on the shuttle. Then in post, you'll have to remove the pulldown with something like compressor or JES deinterlacer since the C300 only outputs 24p over 60i through it's HD-SDI & HDMI ports. Also, it really needs some sort of external power solution.

All those things make me think that the Samurai is a better bet because it does recognize the start/stop flags, it removes pulldown, and takes Sony-style NP batteries that are easy to find and are pretty cheap, especially third party ones. But you do have to pay about $1k more for it vs the Shuttle...
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You are wrong about one of those negatives you listed. It DOES detect record flags. I've been doing it that way since a firmware update in February. As for the pulldown removal, you are correct, it does not do that. I haven't looked deep enough into the ouput settings on the C300, but on my old AF100 I could output 24psf out of the SDI, which is basically 24p in a 48i wrapper. Every NLE that I know of reassembles the 48i footage back into 24p automatically, so if the C300 can output 24psf out the SDI than having pulldown removal is irrelevant. On the AF100 when you outputted 24psf this disabled the HDMI port. You think this might be a problem for those people using an EVF, but thing again, the Hyperdeck Shuttle 2 also does the HDMI conversion from the SDI stream so I could plug my EVF directly into the Shuttle. Again I'm referancing the AF100 so I'm not sure how much of this applies to the C300.
 
Brian@202020 said:
You are wrong about one of those negatives you listed. It DOES detect record flags. I've been doing it that way since a firmware update in February. As for the pulldown removal, you are correct, it does not do that. I haven't looked deep enough into the ouput settings on the C300, but on my old AF100 I could output 24psf out of the SDI, which is basically 24p in a 48i wrapper. Every NLE that I know of reassembles the 48i footage back into 24p automatically, so if the C300 can output 24psf out the SDI than having pulldown removal is irrelevant. On the AF100 when you outputted 24psf this disabled the HDMI port. You think this might be a problem for those people using an EVF, but thing again, the Hyperdeck Shuttle 2 also does the HDMI conversion from the SDI stream so I could plug my EVF directly into the Shuttle. Again I'm referancing the AF100 so I'm not sure how much of this applies to the C300.
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Thanks for the update, I was not aware of the firmware to allow it to detect record flags. Unfortunately, there is no option for PsF on the C300, it's just straight up 24p over 60i.
 
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