HVX200 footage shown at Resfest
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wigby said:
Forget about LCDs and PLASMAS: SED (from Toshiba-Canon) is coming soon and it will completly destroy the current market for LCD and PLASMA. Think about it: SED has all the advantages of CRT (contrast, color, etc.) combined with the kind of size you typically expect from a large plasma screen: large diagonals (there is no limit in diagonal size for SED in fact), but extremely flat and light enough to hang an a wall. When you'll see an SED screen, you too will feel like I do: sorry for all those who bought a plasma or an LCD screen... SED is so much better! (SED= Micro-spikes where each phosphor element-pixel- gets its own set of electron emitters, whereas in classic CRT, there is only one electron emitter).
To get back to the topic, I too had a chance to see an HVX200 in Amsterdam, and 7 stops of latitude doesn't surprise me the least: to my eyes, the HVX200 was as good as my DVX100 in terms of latitude, and obviously MUCH better than its direct competitors (Sony Z1, JVC HD100). However, I have to say it again: the picture I've seen (on 20" LCD screens) was a bit noisy. A little more than the DVX for that matter. But Jan told me this was one of the things Panasonic was currently working on. Anyway, the noise is going to be something we have to pay attention to.
hvpz
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arkham said:
Forget about HD, Hyper-3D-HD is coming soon to !!
Well... we have to live in the present with present tool. That's life !
One thing is sure : your wife will look better now than in the future so enjoy the present !!
To get back to the topic, 7 true f-stops is certainly the maximun in this camera range we can ask, so we can feel happy.
hvpz said:Forget about HD, Hyper-3D-HD is coming soon to !!
Well... we have to live in the present with present tool. That's life !
True! But SED is the present: Toshiba and Canon showed the first SED panel at IFA in Switzerland last week and everyone was amazed by its quality! But don't take my word for it: in the next few months, you too will have the chance to see what I'm talking about! Your wife will look pretty much the same as she does today, because a few months is close to nothing next to a "lifetime"
And you too will feel sorry for those who bought a Plasma, because, as an electronic engineer, I can tell you "Plasma" (and to some extend LCD) was only meant to be a transition technology. There is no way (today) to make a better looking (contrast!) picture than with a CRT and this is a fact. The problem was to find a way to increase the size and the resolution of good ol-CRT. This has been difficult to achieve (started working on this issue more than 10 years ago), but Toshiba and Canon have finally reached this goal. The result is coming soon, and when I say "soon" it is something like "just a few months away". Exactly like the HVX200! And wasn't the HVX200 the main topic of this tread?
videoteque73
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Sometimes I would like to update the firmware of my wife...
Ernest_Acosta
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I checked out Jan's presentation as well and I think the image was awesome! They also gave out a full presentation of the HVX on DVD. I watched some of it last night and it is very impressive. The footage shown was vibrant in colors, sharp and clear. I like when she displayed the strand of hair hanging from the leaf and the candle display also showed great detail in the flame and in the smoke. Also the post mentioning the footage Jan shot at the hotel at the IBC was pretty good. One thing I notice is that wide shots were full with detail so theoretically a blow up to 35 may yield similar results.
Ernest_Acosta
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The DVD is just Panasonic's full presentation on the camera, the functions, etc. Yes there is footage shot at the IBC by Jan out of her hotel window. That was just showing on a monitor near the camera. There is also footage shown on the big screen demonstrating the brilliant colors that this camera can produce. There was a spining wheel to show how it shoots with motion and to display its sharpness, some shots of a strand of hair hanging from a leaf, smoke coming from a candle (you can see the smoke and even particles very clearly) and the shot of the candle to see how it handled highlights.
All-in-all, I was very impressed. The first word out of my mouth was "Wow!"
All-in-all, I was very impressed. The first word out of my mouth was "Wow!"
SergejIvanovits
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Where can I get a DVD you have seen?Ernest_Acosta said:
Was it 1080i or 720p?Ernest_Acosta said:
monday1313
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i'll send a suitcase full of monopoly money to the first person who posts un-corrected clips from the amazing, astounding, as-yet-unproved to all, hvx-mammy-jammy.
by the way, toshiba and canon are in litigation with the nanotech firm that gave them the technology for the SED's. they are infringing on thier license agreement with said company. i know this because i own stock in them (NNPP.OB) ....litigation could go on for awhile, although if toshiba and canon already invested in manufacturing facilities, that could speed things up towards a settlement...
by the way, toshiba and canon are in litigation with the nanotech firm that gave them the technology for the SED's. they are infringing on thier license agreement with said company. i know this because i own stock in them (NNPP.OB) ....litigation could go on for awhile, although if toshiba and canon already invested in manufacturing facilities, that could speed things up towards a settlement...
Walter_Graff
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No offense but I've seen these "laboratory test"s of latitude and equate them to proving a man can jump 20 feet in a hurricane. In the real world the DVX is nowhere near that latitude. Well it is, it's just that you don't want to see the picture at both ends. Problem with the HD version is that beyond a certain f-stop you actually don't get HD at all. I've discussed it on another board here. It's a physical limitation of a CCD that is as small as the ones are on these prosumer cameras. It's claimed by some that a Varicam has 11 stops of latitude. But those of use that use the camera know you'd be lucky to get eight. And you are going to tell me a 1/3 inch SD camera with 1/5 the electronics is getting 8 1/2 with 2.5 overexposure latitude. In a test tube maybe. They can clone cells in a test tube too, but it doesn't work that way in the real world. Poppycock as far as I see!
