HVX footage on p2 cards: 720P/60 but looks choppy and stroby?
- Thread starter evolvnyc
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Okay, in the HVX200
RECORDING SETUP MENU
720P/60P
720P/30P
720P/24P
720P/30PN
720P/24PN
When flipped into Quicktime inspector they will all report as 720p60 DVCPROHD, the framerate will be either 29.97 or 23.98.
Since the inspector cannot get it right, you cannot expect the FCP 6 auto timeline settings to get it right all the time either. 99% of the time it works right though.
So lets just say you dragged some 24PN footage onto the timeline, after which you pulled in a 60P clip. Might have problems there, since FCP has this nasty habbit of auto seting the "Sequence" to the first clip dragged into the sequence.
The PN modes avoid recording extra frames therefore compressing space.
Now from the initial question I though you shot the thing at 24fps in P60 encode (Which should not cause any problems at all), others have interpreted that you shot in 24FPS at 60FPS shutter speed (or in reverse).
Could you export a sample clip and post it onto VIMEO or YOUTUBE?
P.S. The Pixel Aspect ratio of DVCPROHD is not square, so if your FCP Sequence Presets are not set to interpret this pixel aspect, you'll get a sueezed or streched image.
RECORDING SETUP MENU
720P/60P
720P/30P
720P/24P
720P/30PN
720P/24PN
When flipped into Quicktime inspector they will all report as 720p60 DVCPROHD, the framerate will be either 29.97 or 23.98.
Since the inspector cannot get it right, you cannot expect the FCP 6 auto timeline settings to get it right all the time either. 99% of the time it works right though.
So lets just say you dragged some 24PN footage onto the timeline, after which you pulled in a 60P clip. Might have problems there, since FCP has this nasty habbit of auto seting the "Sequence" to the first clip dragged into the sequence.
The PN modes avoid recording extra frames therefore compressing space.
Now from the initial question I though you shot the thing at 24fps in P60 encode (Which should not cause any problems at all), others have interpreted that you shot in 24FPS at 60FPS shutter speed (or in reverse).
Could you export a sample clip and post it onto VIMEO or YOUTUBE?
P.S. The Pixel Aspect ratio of DVCPROHD is not square, so if your FCP Sequence Presets are not set to interpret this pixel aspect, you'll get a sueezed or streched image.
bikefilms
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Dude let us help you out.
Do you have your original footage in MXF format? Then we can run it through Log and Transfer again.
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-Andrew
bikefilms
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By saying your footage is too stroby, do you have that sharp "Gladiator" look?
The default or OFF shutter speed using 720/60p is higher than using 24p as you're used to. From your Viewer info, it looks like you have 24p video with a high shutter speed (1/120th sec).
-Andrew
evolvnyc
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Hey,
Okay I set the "shutter" button to "off" in 720p/60 mode. I have since used the p2 content management software to verify that the clips are all 59.94. I called apple and they said that FCP 5 may have switchced the clips to 23.98 when I imported them in the p2 window because FCP 5 may not be able to handle 720p/60 (?!?!) This makes no sense to me, but I went back to the P23 content software, ingested the clips (so it made duplicates) and imported THOSE mxf's and it recognizes them as 59.94 but says they are not optimized for fcp and it will only allow me to bring in video and not sound. I was told by someone at Panasonic that I should buy transcoding software to change the mxf's into something FCP recognizes? But I'm so confused as to why I have to go through all this extra work for the most basic of default settings?
The client needed to see roughs today so I just edited it all in the wrong timeline with the improperly imported 23.98 clips so I could show them SOMETHING but now I need to figure out how to get the raw clips into something FCP 5 will recognize and work with properly, it doesn't seem like this should be so hard. Am I missing something obvious and basic?
Okay I set the "shutter" button to "off" in 720p/60 mode. I have since used the p2 content management software to verify that the clips are all 59.94. I called apple and they said that FCP 5 may have switchced the clips to 23.98 when I imported them in the p2 window because FCP 5 may not be able to handle 720p/60 (?!?!) This makes no sense to me, but I went back to the P23 content software, ingested the clips (so it made duplicates) and imported THOSE mxf's and it recognizes them as 59.94 but says they are not optimized for fcp and it will only allow me to bring in video and not sound. I was told by someone at Panasonic that I should buy transcoding software to change the mxf's into something FCP recognizes? But I'm so confused as to why I have to go through all this extra work for the most basic of default settings?
The client needed to see roughs today so I just edited it all in the wrong timeline with the improperly imported 23.98 clips so I could show them SOMETHING but now I need to figure out how to get the raw clips into something FCP 5 will recognize and work with properly, it doesn't seem like this should be so hard. Am I missing something obvious and basic?
evolvnyc
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Here is a link to the footage which was improperly imported into fcp as 23.98:
http://www.youtube.com/user/evolvnyc#play/all/uploads-all/0/LJ6BizKkLQ4
Some of the jumpiness is b/c it's so low res, but you get the idea. I guess my only option is transcoding software? Thanks for weighing in everyone.
http://www.youtube.com/user/evolvnyc#play/all/uploads-all/0/LJ6BizKkLQ4
Some of the jumpiness is b/c it's so low res, but you get the idea. I guess my only option is transcoding software? Thanks for weighing in everyone.
The video you've posted on youtube looks under-cranked like 20fps or less.
It seems your timeline settings might be off.
Check this Post out on Creative Cow:
evolvnyc
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that's so strange, it helped, but the footage still says 23.98 in the browser when it was actually shot at 720p/60. Apple tech support, up to level 3 couldn't even figure it out and blamed it on the HVX. Go figure, Panasonic says it has to be FCP. All that means is me=screwed.
bikefilms
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Looks good, but the HVX200 can shoot 24 frames per second even in 720/60p mode. So, this means you have to check one more setting. You checked the first two perfectly. Now dive into the Menu -> Scene File -> FRAMERATE. This setting can be 30, 24, 60, etc. Make sure it says 60. Shoot some clips and Log/Transfer them into FCP.
What happens?
-Andrew