HVX Action Sports?

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Hey everyone, shooting my first action sports snowboard film with the HVX200. I am really stoked about it! Just wanted to get other's opinions. I want to keep a cinematic look. Shoot I shoot 720 24pn or 30pn? I will obviously be doing a lot of overcranking at 60fps. I just don't want the footage to get blurry, is 24fps to slow? I will also be shooting a lot of interviews and b-roll. Any thoughts or experience you could share would be great! Thanks!
 
i shoot a lot of bmx action sports stuff and i find the 24p to be a bit too jittery. i shoot most of my action stuff at 60p and any lifestyle stuff at 30 or 60. if i'm doing a lot of interview stuff in an edit, i'll shoot interview stuff at 24p, shoot action/lifestyle/etc at 30/60 and edit in a 24p based timeline.
 
Hey thanks so much for your reply. So are you editing in a 29.97 timeline? My final export is DVD and originally I wanted to shoot in 24pN and use higher shutter speeds like 1/120, do you think I will have to much jitter still?
 
Hey thanks! that footage looks great. i guess its just deciding aesthetically the look I want. Its either a TV sports at 30 look or a film look at 24. I am really wanting to stick with the film look as much as possible. Thanks again!
 
I shoot snowboarding alot.
here are some of the settings i use
720/30pn- 30 fps for interviews and b-roll. takes up least space. plus audio.
32 fps for most action.- gives it a little bit smoother of a look.
used to do alot at 60 fps but found it to be a little too slow for what im going for.
i keep the shutter at 1/250 unless the light is low. then 1/120
i use the OIS alot of times.

what type of snowboarding are you shooting?
 
thank you! i am shooting park riding. its a dvd reel for a new snowboard park. do you have any examples of footage shot with these settings by chance? would love to check it out.
 
I do motor sports and always shot at 720p/60.... Now I do:

720P/24-24.

I run the shutter up to 1000 and footage is pretty darn good.
 
rpmnava said:
I do motor sports and always shot at 720p/60.... Now I do:

720P/24-24.

I run the shutter up to 1000 and footage is pretty darn good.
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This weekend, I shot musicians playing, candid scenes and interviews outdoors and chose 24p, DVCPRO50, 16:9 for big screen TVs, and was very happy with the footage.

I've covered a lot of sporting events and always use 60i. Now I'm experimenting with 24p and shutter speeds in action sports as well.
 
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check out mtnops.com, all riding shots are at 32fps
interviews at 30
some 60 fps thrown in here and there.
all 1/250 shutter.
hvx200 and hpx170 shot these
 
In previous years shooting with the HVX I have shot in 30pN. This year I jumped to 24pN and was happy with the move because of the over-cranking possibilities and it looked great. Mostly have kept the shutter at a 180.0 degrees and it looks great also. Sometimes crank up the shutter to 500 or a 1000 to get ultra crisp (60fps) slow stuff. If the subject is moving too fast it will look pretty jittery. Rarely will I shoot action shots in 24fps, but not to say I wouldn't.

http://www.vimeo.com/5683234

Most of this stuff was shot in 24pN mode. The top angle of the big jump is definitely in 24pN at I think 48fps. Looks very smooth. 24fps timeline
 
Yes. Good idea. I turned away from 24 when I used the DVX because 24fps was just too choppy. But the variable frame rates allow for a much better look.
 
check out my surf trailer most was shot at 60 fps overcranked. i played back at 30 , shutter is always bumped up ( depending on light) . polorizer would be a must. or heavy nd filters for snow bright. my new website up today, 80waves.ca is promoting and now selling my surf movie -AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 WAVES-
 
i agree with the 30p guys the 24 frame stuff is jittery, I have had this conversation with other guys who love the 24p stuff because of the "film look" it has. As Mangler put it there is a frame rate for diff situations, fast motion is better captured at 60p or i, normal motion looks nice @ 30p and scenes with even less motion or static type stuff ie interviews look nice recorded in 24. Experimenting is best, find what you like but remember to shoot for the situation at hand.
 
Very much agreed. But as a freelance shooter, knowing the editors final output will be a 24fps timeline, would you still want to shoot 30fps? Very well noted that each situation calls for different settings.
 
If you know for a fact that you'll have no plans of overcranking the footage, shoot at 24p(n). That will give you the cinematic look, but it may not be the best depending on how active you'll be while filming. No matter what, I advise keeping the shutter speed at about 1/500. I know, 1/120 will work, but 500 will be really crisp, and it will keep the footage from having any motion blur. I would say that 30p is definitely your best all around framerate, but when it really comes down to it, you'll have to decide what you want to do with the footage and use that to judge how you should film it. My basic advice is this: 1/500 shutter speed, 24p if you don't plan to overcrank, 30p if you're using a fisheye or being really active with the camera, and 60p if you're doing something really big/dramatic and have intentions of overcranking it to 24.
These are just my personal shooting preferences, and I hope they help you out, too.

Good luck,
Jeremy Taylor
 
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