How's about we talk about the camera again?
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visceralpsyche
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It wouldn't surprise me if we see a detachable puck form factor with a couple of controls and a rotary dial, since I have sent info to Stuart English about intervalometer type speed ramping functionality on the camera which would be greatly assisted by just such flexibility. Being able to program a speed ramp and/or manually do it while shooting would be great and a detachable info screen with the right controls could make this happen on camera with no additional controllers required. I can only hope my idea makes it to fruition....
JDHolloway
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Has RED confirmed that speed ramping will be possible? It tends to be used and abused in the low-budget rock video world; definitely a potential RED market.
speed ramping
Has RED confirmed that speed ramping will be possible? It tends to be used and abused in the low-budget rock video world; definitely a potential RED market.
Gibby
Red Savant
Stuart English said:
That's great news! I've been lobbying for that to be included in RED One for several months now. I think it will seriously enhance the flexibility and utility of a RED One camera package, especially for use in certain production styles, equipment packages, lens formats, and sub-genres of shooting.
Thanks...
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firewallet
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Thank you Stuart and thank you Gibby for the lobbying... certainly helps me out also...
agwah said:
Great post Agwah. I had wondered about this myself. Wouldn't it be brilliant if in 3-5 years time we could send in our Red 1 body (along with a check) and have it sent back with a new sensor and other goodies. An upgrade rather than a brand new model.
A while back Jim had mentioned something about making the Red camera in 3 or 4 separate components (sensor, processor, recorder, and something else I can't remember properly) for ultimate modularity. I don't know if this idea was followed through.
As things are evolving R1 seems like the perfect camera for me, but I'm crossing my fingers that the future will bring (even) higher frame rates and (even) better latitude. I'm not too worried about this now but if Red does have a strategy for future upgrades I sure that broadcasting it would build even greater confidence and sales.
Gibby
Red Savant
boothba said:
Boothba and Agwah,
I believe this passage from my published interview (April 2006) with Jim Jannard sheds some light on how RED will approach the concept of upgrades, and there's no reason to think that RED's philosophy on this has changed since the interview:
Gibby – “What is the future of the RED Digital Cinema camera? What’s the next generation?”
Jannard – “Well, ideally this one camera will last somebody for decades. But in a world of fast-changing electronics, the more practical idea is to make this camera capable of accepting upgrades. Our goal is not to come out with a replacement model that has a completely new feature set, and that leaves the buyer of this first camera behind. The idea is that this camera is upgradeable as much as possible. The design is fundamentally flexible, so that for example, if you record to REDFLASH and you have X gigabytes of capacity, and Flash capability grows in gigabytes and shrinks in dollars over the next couple of years, its easy to add those kind of capacity advantages to the existing cameras. As I said, the goal of RED is to not obsolete the camera, its to upgrade and update this camera.”
All I ever wanted was a cup holder built right into a camera. I am still waiting for that day to come. I put in the reservation for RED just in case it will come with one.
If in fact it does come with a cup holder, I will .. FINALLY .. be able to send that damn kid out for 2 lattes instead of the usual 1.
If in fact it does come with a cup holder, I will .. FINALLY .. be able to send that damn kid out for 2 lattes instead of the usual 1.
visceralpsyche
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I'll quote Red in saying that nothing is locked down and all specs subject to change, BUT I sent pretty detailed info on speed ramping technology to them because THEY asked (I'd mentioned it as a feature request prior), so take that as you will.JDHolloway said:
It's a feature that usually separates film and video cameras so in trying to create a camera that mimics the look and FEEL of film as closely as possible I'd think that Red would want to have this, as it'd be a pretty good selling point in an age where everyone uses speed ramping to create "cool" effects (and I must admit when done right it IS a cool effect).
HTH
JDHolloway
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Agreed. So long as there is a narrative incentive to drive the use of these tools, they are terrific and certainly cool. Its much nicer to do it in the camera then fake it in post too. Way more organic.