How do I get the 50p footage to show up as slowmo in FCPX?

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Krusty4president

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I just got my XDCAM Sony PMW-200 the oter day and have an assignment on monday. Playing around with the settings for achieving 50p footage that show up slow motion in Final Cut pro X.

I have set the system to HD/422/720p/50p and also the S&Q Motion to 50p but when i import the clip and drop it to a timeline in fcpx the timeline becomes 50p and plays as normal. There seem no way to change the 50p setting of the timeline. Trying to conform clip just creates a 50% slower speed clip.

What am I doing wrong here?
 
If you want to use it as slow no, you need to set your timeline at a lower frame rate like 24p or 25p. Then import your footage.
 
I don't use FCPX but I can tell you one thing that you are doing wrong on the camera that will probably solve the problem. If you want to shoot slow-mo by using the camera's S&Q Motion function, you do NOT set the video format to 50P. If you are shooting PAL, set it to 25P and 24P for NTSC. Try HD/422/720/25P and then turn on S&Q and crank the frame rate up as fast as it will go (you'll have no audio). When you import the clip, it will appear to FCP to be a normal 25P clip with no special handling required, but it will play back as slow-motion.

http://www.vortexmedia.com/DVD_PMW200.html

Doug
 
Simply import the file using a program like 5DtoRGB lite* and scroll down to the frame rate selector. You can change this, and the file will natively play at that frame rate.
Alternatively, if you still have "Cinema Tools" installed from the old FCP7 package, you can do the file conversion there as well.
There are also many other "free" conversion tools you can find, but 5DtoRGB gets you the most out of your footage and its free.
 
Oh, my mistake... afraid im only familiar with AVCHD, MPEG, and ProRes workflows.
However, when your importing into FCPX... im sure it's converting it ProRes. I know its a bit of a round about way, but you could then throw that ProRes 60p/50p file into 5DtoRGB and convert it to play at the slower rate natively. It could work, and be a feasible solution if your only converting a few files. If your doing loads, then your gonna have to look into other programs.
 
daihard said:
However, when your importing into FCPX... im sure it's converting it ProRes.
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I wouldn't be so sure about that. Like I said earlier I don't edit with FCPX because it's missing too many professional features, but with FCP7 the recommended method of importing is to stay XDCAM native. I've been shooting with XDCAM since 2006 and I have never transcoded to ProRes -- ever. And I don't know anyone else who does either. I'm sure some people do transcode to ProRes, but all they get for their trouble is 4x bigger files and longer ingest waiting while files transcode. Of course, FCPX might be different. I assume you are using XDCAM Browser, if not, you should check it out.
 
Well, once again... i guess im throwing in info basied on my assumption. To my understanding XDCAM is based DV, MPEG-2 Part 2 or MPEG-4 compression schemes which should play nice with programs such as 5DtoRGB or Mpeg Streamclip.
I guess when you ingest it stays in it's container with Sony's plugin... natively, similar to my GH2 - AVCHD camera.
Anyhow, long explanation short. I never suggested you ingest everything or convert everything into Prores formate. I merely suggested, PART OF, said* high speed clips be converted into a 5DtoRGB (or similar conversion program, i.e. Cinema Tools) friendly format, thus I suggested ProRes. Then drop into 5DtoRGB and converted into a slower play back frame rate, so that FCP7-X can make better use of the higher frame rates.
But yes, i certainly dont work with XDCAM files. I just work with these programs FCP and Premiere , so i understand the Post Workflow and how to manipulate the various video files best* in order to get the intended frame rate.
If, XDCAM files can convert to Prores... then maybe my suggestion could have some usefulness.
 
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