How can I achieve a cinematic look, shooting in 60i? convert to 24p somehow?

ilikechinesefood

ilikechinesefood

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I'm using a Canon xl1... I wish I had the xl2 since that features a 24p frame rate function.

What presets can I use to get a more cinematic look while shooting in 60i?

Or...should I try to convert/deinterlace the 60i to 24p? 30p?

I have Adobe Premier Suite... is there any way I could edit in post to make it look more cinematic?

Thanks
 
There are several options... What platform are you on?

(I'm on a Mac, so I'll defer to others for the PC side...)

First thing isn't actually related to software, but camera settings. One typical cinema shutter is 1/2 the frame rate, so if a production is filmed at 24fps, a common shutter speed is 1/48 sec. If you're shooting 60i, or about 30fps, setting a shutter of 1/60 sec will help achieve a cinematic look.

Now, the actual framerate... From what I've read, a good software solution for conforming 60i to 24p is DVFilm Maker, which is about $150. It's available for both mac and PC, so, bully for you. Another option is Frames, by Magic Bullet (makers of the fantastic Looks color-timing app). I haven't used it either, but I'd imagine that Frames is just as good as Looks.

Good luck!

Paul
 
ilikechinesefood said:
... is there any way I could edit in post to make it look more cinematic?
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Hi,

I'm doing some research right now to write an article on the The Film Look, and I can share some things that might help, but really, the first thing that I might suggest is make sure you noodle on what you want your look to look like and where it is going to be shown. Cadence - the notion of 24fps is the first step simply because it is the quantifiable and known rate; it's what's at the movies - the rate that is normally shot (sort of) and projected for films. It's relatively easy to mimic, too. As Paul suggested, DVFilm Maker has a stand alone for Pull Down, TMPGEnc Xpress 4.0 does a great job removing pull down, too.

For a 'look', Red Giant's Magic Bullet is terrific as a plugin. Natress is great for the Mac crowd.

All that said, there's more to a look than progressive and interlaced frames. You can get a good grip on that notion in about 1500 words. But taking that look somewhere means taking it up a notch to mean using good technique in shooting your video to look like film to truly value that your project is a film.

That entails several topics such as contrast (common and well documented), video tends to be too contrasty, gamma, color space, Depth of field, use of zoom, lighting, Aspect, scene, and composition. There's a lot more, but you get the idea.

Getting your cadence right, while it might seem like the first step, is really sort of one of the last things. You noodle everything else first.

Good luck and my best.

Mike
 
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