DPStewart
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Mitch wins.
Without any doubt.
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Mitch wins.
+1Without any doubt.
not to toot my own horn, but just to state that i've delivered countless behind the scenes docs for the studios on everything from huge titles like transformers, to smaller titles like end of watch. in this instance, we were so mystified by the response that after trying to address their notes for weeks, this was the first time my producer and I agreed to walk away and let someone else take over. oddly, enough. i saw the piece a couple years ago and it seems they eventually went back to our original concept, but just added a bunch of VO.
I knew you had done some BTS work, but I didn't realize it was that extensive. A question-- did you learn much about filmmaking from the big-budget films that you could apply to your own shoots?
Here's my shoot from hell. It was from a film made by a bunch of very talented DVXusers whose names I won't mention, for obvious reasons. It was a great learning experience, so I think of it fondly, but that doesn't mean it wasn't hell.
I was 16 years old and was contacted by the filmmakers asking if I could be the sound guy for a short film. The pay was $100/day. I'd be using their equipment.
"I've read a bunch of books on sound," I told them, "but I've never done it before. I have no experience."
"That's fine. We'll teach you how to use the equipment at the start of our first shooting day."
The film had three main actors. The director wanted all of them wearing lavs, plus I'd be operating the boom. So we had four channels of audio. The filmmakers were using a bunch of brand new equipment that none of them had used before. Two of the audio channels would be going to the brand new GH1 + Beachtek XLR adapter (lol), and the other two would be going to a Zoom H4 (also just released).
The Beachtek adapter was supposed to have a setting that canceled the GH1's auto-levels, but nobody could get it working. We couldn't even tell if it was recording anything. The Zoom H4 was missing its AC adapter, so it required batteries. The only spare batteries on set were 5+ year old rechargeables that only lasted for 10 minutes. As soon as I put in a fresh pair, the H4 already indicated that I needed to change the batteries. I had to switch batteries between every single take, because it could have shut off at any time, and I didn't want to ruin a take. It took 1-2 minutes to do this between every take--remove batteries, put them back on charger, grab "fully charged" batteries, put them in H4, and reposition the boom pole.
I could only monitor two of the audio channels, so I monitored the H4. The other two lavs, I guess nobody cared about. We didn't have the equipment to hear what they were recording. Since I was both the boom operator and the sound mixer, but I didn't have one of those sound mixer bags, I had to keep the H4 on the floor, turn it on at the start of each take, then pick up the boom pole and get it in place. This was a routine part of the protocol for every single take, for all four days of shooting. Change batteries, start rolling the H4 as it sits on the ground, position boom pole, say "sound ready." The AD still yelled out, "Waiting on sound!" every time. Eventually he became more and more sarcastic with his "waiting on sound!", suggesting that I was incompetent and was the one slowing the shoot down. This was extremely embarrassing at the time, and nobody in charge ever spoke up to defend me.
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Let me jump ahead to the main points. On day two, there was no boom pole. Somebody forgot it. I had to use a baby stand as the boom pole, and the weight of the thing damn near killed me. As I'm struggling to hold the boom (my face shows my pain but I'm still holding the thing perfectly well) during a take, the director says Cut! and screams, "Would somebody show that kid how to hold a goddamn boom!?" With everyone watching, the gaffer runs over and shows me an incorrect way to hold a boom. Everyone knew his way was completely incorrect (he demonstrated booming from below with the mic out of frame by the actor's knees), but nobody had my back. I shrugged and held it his way from then on. It sounded like sh*t but it was what the director wanted apparently. (Actually, it definitely was not what the director wanted, but it was apparently more important that I get scolded than that I get good sound.)
Still this "waiting on sound!" thing was going on. I realize that's a normal thing for an AD to say, but there was such an insulting tone to it each time, like "here we go again!" Everybody was getting in on it-- it wasn't my imagination. Nobody told me this directly, but I could tell I was the scapegoat for everything that was going wrong on the shoot. I'm a team player, and I'm happy to play the scapegoat when necessary. But they need my permission first. If someone had said, "Hey this shoot is going horribly wrong, and I need to blame sound department. Is that ok?" I'd be entirely ok with it. But no, the people who were passing blame to me seemed to really believe it. I still believe that I did the best job that anybody possibly could have with what I was given.
These were also 16 hour days, plus 2 hours of driving for me. It was not production's fault, but I was also dealing with my parents and their rule that I wasn't allowed to drive after midnight. When I was in high school and a shoot ran over schedule, I'd have to deal with my crying mother on the phone (again, nobody's fault, but worth mentioning so you understand my psychological state).
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Third act.
Near the end of the shoot, the AD approaches me to have me sign a contract. I discover that my pay is actually $25/day, plus $75/day deferred. I was not confident enough as a 16 year old to say that that's bullsh*t, so I sign. I find out later that I was the lowest paid person on set. Everyone else is getting their actual money, but 3/4 of my money is "deferred." Of course I was never paid that money. The contract didn't even explain the terms of the deferred pay, which of course means that whoever drew up the contracts had no intention of ever paying it, and they assumed I was a complete moron (which was, admittedly, accurate.)
In the end I think they ADR'd the entire movie. No surprise there. It still managed to get into a prestigious festival and actually came out very good. Who'd have imagined...
Here's my shoot from hell. It was from a film made by a bunch of very talented DVXusers whose names I won't mention, for obvious reasons. It was a great learning experience, so I think of it fondly, but that doesn't mean it wasn't hell.
I was 16 years old and was contacted by the filmmakers asking if I could be the sound guy for a short film. The pay was $100/day. I'd be using their equipment.
"I've read a bunch of books on sound," I told them, "but I've never done it before. I have no experience."
"That's fine. We'll teach you how to use the equipment at the start of our first shooting day."
The film had three main actors. The director wanted all of them wearing lavs, plus I'd be operating the boom. So we had four channels of audio. The filmmakers were using a bunch of brand new equipment that none of them had used before. Two of the audio channels would be going to the brand new GH1 + Beachtek XLR adapter (lol), and the other two would be going to a Zoom H4 (also just released).
The Beachtek adapter was supposed to have a setting that canceled the GH1's auto-levels, but nobody could get it working. We couldn't even tell if it was recording anything. The Zoom H4 was missing its AC adapter, so it required batteries. The only spare batteries on set were 5+ year old rechargeables that only lasted for 10 minutes. As soon as I put in a fresh pair, the H4 already indicated that I needed to change the batteries. I had to switch batteries between every single take, because it could have shut off at any time, and I didn't want to ruin a take. It took 1-2 minutes to do this between every take--remove batteries, put them back on charger, grab "fully charged" batteries, put them in H4, and reposition the boom pole.
I could only monitor two of the audio channels, so I monitored the H4. The other two lavs, I guess nobody cared about. We didn't have the equipment to hear what they were recording. Since I was both the boom operator and the sound mixer, but I didn't have one of those sound mixer bags, I had to keep the H4 on the floor, turn it on at the start of each take, then pick up the boom pole and get it in place. This was a routine part of the protocol for every single take, for all four days of shooting. Change batteries, start rolling the H4 as it sits on the ground, position boom pole, say "sound ready." The AD still yelled out, "Waiting on sound!" every time. Eventually he became more and more sarcastic with his "waiting on sound!", suggesting that I was incompetent and was the one slowing the shoot down. This was extremely embarrassing at the time, and nobody in charge ever spoke up to defend me.
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Let me jump ahead to the main points. On day two, there was no boom pole. Somebody forgot it. I had to use a baby stand as the boom pole, and the weight of the thing damn near killed me. As I'm struggling to hold the boom (my face shows my pain but I'm still holding the thing perfectly well) during a take, the director says Cut! and screams, "Would somebody show that kid how to hold a goddamn boom!?" With everyone watching, the gaffer runs over and shows me an incorrect way to hold a boom. Everyone knew his way was completely incorrect (he demonstrated booming from below with the mic out of frame by the actor's knees), but nobody had my back. I shrugged and held it his way from then on. It sounded like sh*t but it was what the director wanted apparently. (Actually, it definitely was not what the director wanted, but it was apparently more important that I get scolded than that I get good sound.)
Still this "waiting on sound!" thing was going on. I realize that's a normal thing for an AD to say, but there was such an insulting tone to it each time, like "here we go again!" Everybody was getting in on it-- it wasn't my imagination. Nobody told me this directly, but I could tell I was the scapegoat for everything that was going wrong on the shoot. I'm a team player, and I'm happy to play the scapegoat when necessary. But they need my permission first. If someone had said, "Hey this shoot is going horribly wrong, and I need to blame sound department. Is that ok?" I'd be entirely ok with it. But no, the people who were passing blame to me seemed to really believe it. I still believe that I did the best job that anybody possibly could have with what I was given.
These were also 16 hour days, plus 2 hours of driving for me. It was not production's fault, but I was also dealing with my parents and their rule that I wasn't allowed to drive after midnight. When I was in high school and a shoot ran over schedule, I'd have to deal with my crying mother on the phone (again, nobody's fault, but worth mentioning so you understand my psychological state).
----
Third act.
Near the end of the shoot, the AD approaches me to have me sign a contract. I discover that my pay is actually $25/day, plus $75/day deferred. I was not confident enough as a 16 year old to say that that's bullsh*t, so I sign. I find out later that I was the lowest paid person on set. Everyone else is getting their actual money, but 3/4 of my money is "deferred." Of course I was never paid that money. The contract didn't even explain the terms of the deferred pay, which of course means that whoever drew up the contracts had no intention of ever paying it, and they assumed I was a complete moron (which was, admittedly, accurate.)
In the end I think they ADR'd the entire movie. No surprise there. It still managed to get into a prestigious festival and actually came out very good. Who'd have imagined...