HMC150 and HPX170

[Justyn]

nice thread all. I personally have never missed the HVX I used to have since getting the 150. I've never also seen much need or desire to have the 170. The 150 has been a great camera and supports what I shoot very well and leaves plenty of room to buy other equipment and or sell this camera after having it for a year and get something else. I'll probably only loose about 750 bucks in that deal and I lost a lot more value when I sold my HVX. So I look at it as renting the camera for a year for 150 bucks

 

[Fox]

is there any sort of HMC 150 training dvd coming out any time in the near future?

Go to http://www.eventdv-tv.com/ and click on the video player picture (middle of screen you can't miss it), when the player loads look at the tabs on the top right (of the video player), the last one should say Von Real click that there are several videos about the HMC150, they tell you about how to use the camera, and there are some comparisons. I have had trouble viewing some of them, the screen goes black and there is only audio. Hope they help you.:2vrolijk_08:

 

[sagedrummer]

HI
I am trying to do a Live Webcast tomorrow but the software to run it needs a Firewire connection. Is this possible to do that using one of the component out ports on the HMC 150? I am thinking there may be a cable I can get that will go from component out(male) to firewire male?

 

[edoubleu]

I've found this thread interesting, as I've been having a hard time choosing my next camera. I want ease of editing in FCP, and although I really like the sound of the 150, it seems generally agreed that the workflow is tricky and probably time consuming for FCP. I like the idea of the new JVC camera that is native for FCP, but I don't think the camera itself matches up to the 150. I like the SxS cards of the EX1 working with my MacBook Pro slot, but I don't think I need that much camera for what I am going to do with it (business training videos, mostly), and I don't like what I've read about the CMOS chips for sporting events on bright days (going to use it personally for soccer games and surfing competitions on weekends).

For these reasons, I've just started to relook at the 170. The P2 workflow sounds easier than the 150. Anyone have a comment on the workflow of the 170 versus 150?

Also, anyone happen to know if the thumbnail file scene feature on the 170 is also on the 150? I really liked that on the HVX when I used it. I recall that made it very easy to delete unwanted scenes. Not sure if that works the same with SD cards and the 150. You can tell I am getting ready to go tapeless for good. Thanks!

 

[Barry_Green]

The workflow of the 170 can be comparable to the 150, or way easier, depending on how you go about it. If you use Raylight or Calibrated or MXF4QT, then you have the ability to edit the files natively, either right off the cards or off of the drives that you offloaded the footage to. And that can make things quicker/easier/faster.

But if you go through the "log & transfer" interface, then it probably doesn't end up all that different, 150 to 170.

 

[studio1972]

it seems generally agreed that the workflow is tricky and probably time consuming for FCP.

I don't think this is the case. I use the HMC151 with final cut. With about 6 hours of wedding footage it takes me an hour or 2 to go through all the clips in Log & Transfer, set in and out points and name each clip. This makes the editing process pretty simple as I now have only the clips I want and they are all labelled descriptively. The only problem I sometimes find is that Final cut can freeze when scrubbing through the clips in the L&T window.

 

[edoubleu]

The workflow of the 170 can be comparable to the 150, or way easier, depending on how you go about it. If you use Raylight or Calibrated or MXF4QT, then you have the ability to edit the files natively, either right off the cards or off of the drives that you offloaded the footage to. And that can make things quicker/easier/faster.

But if you go through the "log & transfer" interface, then it probably doesn't end up all that different, 150 to 170.

Thanks, Barry. That Raylight does look pretty easy. Seems comparable in ease to using the SxS/Express card slot for Mac.

 

[edoubleu]

I don't think this is the case. I use the HMC151 with final cut. With about 6 hours of wedding footage it takes me an hour or 2 to go through all the clips in Log & Transfer, set in and out points and name each clip. This makes the editing process pretty simple as I now have only the clips I want and they are all labelled descriptively. The only problem I sometimes find is that Final cut can freeze when scrubbing through the clips in the L&T window.

That's great to hear. Gets worrisome when you see a lot of people posting about issues, but that is also likely because the camera was new and the workflow kinks had to be worked out.