HF10/HF100 effective mic range?

Randall_Oelerich

Randall_Oelerich

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What is the effective range of using the on-camera mic for the HF100? For recording dialog from an actor. Assume mild to no wind. (and on that issue, how well does the digital windscreen work?). I have a Rode NTG2 shotgun condensor mic and carbon fiber boompole, but if I can not find a soundperson for my shoot this weekend i might have to go with on camera microphone, maybe a few static camera shots where I hold the boompole and Rode mic.
 
digital windscreen? hah nice.

All that is, is a low freq roll off. You cant "digitally" protect the microphone element from getting hit by wind.

if you were using an outboard mic and mixer, there are positives to
putting a varying degree of low cut on the mic at the mixer, or even starting right on the actual mic's itself (if it has one)

But using the cameras built in mic, personally i would just record it "as is" and
do your rolling off in post, unless its a very strong wind that will make the low end rumble distort your recording

All in all, i would never expect a camera mic to pickup dialog at an acceptable quality
there are way too many factors involved, but thats just me.
Background noise, level of the voice, tone of the voice. (a deep voice is going to carry differently than a thin voice)..etc..etc.

I allow the camera mic for ambience's for non critical audio scenes
but then again, im paid to do it right ;)
 
The mic is a typical on camera mic. Not suitable for decent dialogue. It's not horrible but I would do anything... anything to avoid using an on camera mic, even a cheap lav on your talent will sound better.
 
I did finally find a soundpole person, sounds committed (whether she shows up remains to be seen), who will hold my boompole and Rode NTG-2 shotgun condenser mic (XLR cables into BeachTek then to HF100). Should get good dialog now this way, but was still curious about onboard mic, as it sure seems sensitive on the HF100.

What about recording ambient sound-- wind, leaves rustling, birds, etc.-- to mix in later in post? Would the Rode NTG2 suffice for that too, or not since it is shotgun? I also have a Zoom H4 digital recorder with build in stereo mic, I could use that, or the HF100 onboard mic, or the Rode NTG2 shotgun condenser mic; which do you think would be best for recording ambient sounds for mixing in post?
 
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