Here we go... Blu-ray!

I'm getting one. Finally something viable for long therm archiving! (At a reasonable price, that is)
 
Hmm...it says:

"A 50 GB Blu-ray disc can store approximately 4 GB of HD video..."

Did they mean to say "4 hours" of HD video?
 
Any projections on the price of media? My current workflow includes the purchase of a FW HDD for each project for archiving the footage, but this could prove to be much cheaper after a few projects! Not to mention more convenient!
 
I can't see how this can be cheaper than storing on HDD's, at least not yet. Seeing as how I can get a 120GB HDD for about $65, blue ray discs are more $$$ per gigabyte, at least for now (blue ray looks to be about $.75 to $1.00 per gigabyte). Plus there is no word yet on the stability of these discs, there is plenty of speculation, but I always hesitate to backup one of a kind data on a completely new and untested medium. I probably will go to Blue Ray or Holographic or HD-DVD or whatever when the wars settle down a bit, and when the mediums have been tested, but remember the age old concern of just how screwed early adopters tend to be, if not by price, but by reliability as well.
 
Mike McNeese said:
Any projections on the price of media?
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Our local CompUSA carries blu ray blanks. I believe they are $20.00 for 25 GBs.

Don't believe any 50GBs ones are currently available.

The drives, interestingly, don't play blu ray commercial DVDs, at least that's the initial experience.

Compusa.com also carries $799.00 internal blu ray burners:

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=340957
 
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As you probably already know, Blu ray has been delayed yet again and should come out around December 4.

Talking about the $0.75 per GB price that is in fact very expensive.
You can find current blank DVDs for 1 dollar a piece, that's just $0.21 per GB, yeah almost FOUR TIMES CHEAPER than Blu Ray !!!

The same problem is with the dual layer disks. I have never used them because of the cost. They can retail at a minimum of $5 a piece whereas normal DVDs cost 1 dollar. So you're getting twice the capacity at FIVE TIMES the price. You can just imagine the guy in the supermarket selling you a pack of peanuts saying "Hello Sir, I have an offer you can't refuse. Buy two of these packs and we'll multiply the unit price by five!!"

Sony is saying we'll give you ten times the capacity for just 37 times the price!!

One thing is certain the economic and business laws that govern new technologies have very little to do with the real world.
 
Normal DVD-/+ R's are not 1$ a peice. More like 20 cents a peice.

120gb HD for 65 is expensive as well. Where do you guys show. 300gb HDD's should be around 80 bucks, INT that is.
 
Like other forms of optical storage the Blu-Ray discs should be expected to start out expensive and drop to a tiny fraction of their price. Both CDR and DVDR blanks started out at about $25 apiece, and sell now for pennies. If Blu-Ray blanks start at $20, expect them to be $2 in a couple of years or less. Then they'll be very competitive with the others.

As for hard drives, IMHO they are not suitable as long term archiving media due to their mechanical components. I've seen too many of them not "wake up" again (or do so with corrupted data) after sitting a year or two unused on a shelf. As for CDR or DVDR media, while I do know that other people reportedly have, I personally have yet to encounter one single picece that, once initially verified, (and properly stored) failed to be fully readable at any later time (as I say that, I'm knocking wood that I never do).

A reliable 25 or 50 GB recordable optical disc the size of a CD that cost even as much as $20 might be an attractive archiving medium, especially if recording time wasn't excessive comapred to DVDRs. The added convenience of its large capacity would make the archiving job much easier than the multiple DVDR scheme as I use now. I often back up even audio projects of 30+ GB, and that's a drop in the bucket for video work, let alone HD video work. At $2/50GB it would be game over.
 
Cynic821 said:
Normal DVD-/+ R's are not 1$ a peice. More like 20 cents a peice.

120gb HD for 65 is expensive as well. Where do you guys show. 300gb HDD's should be around 80 bucks, INT that is.
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40 cents a piece is what I got when I bought my last 50 pack. But yeah, Blu-Ray is too expensive for now to switch over. We also don't know if it'll end up lasting or if HD-DVD will become the dominant medium.
 
Normal DVD-/+ R's are not 1$ a peice. More like 20 cents a peice.
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Yeah I know you can get them for 20 cents (I've already bought them at that price) but I wanted to compare the higher quality DVDs with the (hopefully) high quality Blu Ray disks. Just to be comparing like with like.
 
I think scharky is right, and that HDD's are still the cheapest storage solution. Also, with all of the problems sony has been having with this format, im hesitant to drop a grand or more on a burner.
 
Ted Spencer said:
Like other forms of optical storage the Blu-Ray discs should be expected to start out expensive and drop to a tiny fraction of their price. Both CDR and DVDR blanks started out at about $25 apiece, and sell now for pennies. If Blu-Ray blanks start at $20, expect them to be $2 in a couple of years or less. Then they'll be very competitive with the others.

As for hard drives, IMHO they are not suitable as long term archiving media due to their mechanical components. I've seen too many of them not "wake up" again (or do so with corrupted data) after sitting a year or two unused on a shelf. As for CDR or DVDR media, while I do know that other people reportedly have, I personally have yet to encounter one single picece that, once initially verified, (and properly stored) failed to be fully readable at any later time (as I say that, I'm knocking wood that I never do).

A reliable 25 or 50 GB recordable optical disc the size of a CD that cost even as much as $20 might be an attractive archiving medium, especially if recording time wasn't excessive comapred to DVDRs. The added convenience of its large capacity would make the archiving job much easier than the multiple DVDR scheme as I use now. I often back up even audio projects of 30+ GB, and that's a drop in the bucket for video work, let alone HD video work. At $2/50GB it would be game over.
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Agreed. great post. Sums up everything.
 
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