Help with Monitor Choice

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Bassman2003

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Hello,

I am in the market for a new editing monitor and wanted to get some viewpoints on what you think I might want to get. some background:

I have my own businesses and shoot more of what you would call video but really my work is a mix of everything. I shoot, edit and deliver myself one man band style for most jobs. My current monitor is a JVC 20" broadcast LCD monitor that is 1080p30 but only with component inputs. I would like a monitor that can do 1080p60 using HDMI or HDSDI. This will probably be fed from a Blackmagic output card. My NLE is Edius.

I really enjoy color correction and having proper colors. One thing I have noticed over the years is my delivery has shifted away from optical discs to the internet. From my perspective, this means the way people watch my products has moved from their televisions to other screens. This means a move from the YUV color space to a more RGB centric world. Since my JVC monitor is no spring chicken, I see it as a YUV monitor. What I think I need is more of an RGB centric broadcast monitor if that exists? Right now, when I know something is going to web, I will correct on the JVC but then tweak on my NLE computer preview window knowing the images look a little different.

Does any of this YUV / RGB stuff make sense? Do you see a difference between broadcast screens and computer monitors? What I do not want is just a computer monitor that can be used for video.

I am considering something like a Boland, Ikan, Viewz etc... but is that overkill? A 20" or 21" is a great size for my workspace,

Thanks for your input!
 
The web standard is sRGB 2.2 gamma, so a decent computer monitor that's calibrated with something like an X-Rite i1Display Pro should be sufficient.
 
First question- what's your budget?

Remember that pretty much nobody calibrates their phone or home TV. Very few calibrate their computer monitors (and most of them are professional graphics or video types).

That doesn't mean that you shouldn't use a calibrated monitor (and scopes) to make sure your output is correct. If anything, I think it makes it more important. Delivering uncorrected footage to the great uncalibrated wilderness can only look good by accident and will never look consistent. Having a good color (and sound) pipeline helps to moderate this problem.

If you're careful about your transcodes & conversions, & you QC them afterwards, you should still be delivering good looking (and sounding) content regardless of where it lands.
 
I can go up to ~$2,000 but wonder if I need to?

Back in the old days, there was a big difference between a "broadcast" monitor and a computer monitor. Now that seems to be blurry in some respects. I do still photography and have both my computer monitors calibrated with a Spyder, but this does not seem to cover video as the video output will go through the Blackmagic output card, not the graphics card where the profile is setup. It will cover video viewed on the internet with a calibrated monitor, but for video work, I see it as close but not the same.

But then again, when I look at my broadcast monitor now, it looks great but the colors are not that same as the computer preview window. Reds trend more towards orange on the broadcast monitor where they trend towards magenta on the computer monitor. What is correct on the broadcast monitor is correct for TVs, not the internet. As you can see, I am struggling with this...
 
Bassman2003 said:
Hello,

I am in the market for a new editing monitor and wanted to get some viewpoints on what you think I might want to get. some background:

I have my own businesses and shoot more of what you would call video but really my work is a mix of everything. I shoot, edit and deliver myself one man band style for most jobs. My current monitor is a JVC 20" broadcast LCD monitor that is 1080p30 but only with component inputs. I would like a monitor that can do 1080p60 using HDMI or HDSDI. This will probably be fed from a Blackmagic output card. My NLE is Edius.

I really enjoy color correction and having proper colors. One thing I have noticed over the years is my delivery has shifted away from optical discs to the internet. From my perspective, this means the way people watch my products has moved from their televisions to other screens. This means a move from the YUV color space to a more RGB centric world. Since my JVC monitor is no spring chicken, I see it as a YUV monitor. What I think I need is more of an RGB centric broadcast monitor if that exists? Right now, when I know something is going to web, I will correct on the JVC but then tweak on my NLE computer preview window knowing the images look a little different.

Does any of this YUV / RGB stuff make sense? Do you see a difference between broadcast screens and computer monitors? What I do not want is just a computer monitor that can be used for video.

I am considering something like a Boland, Ikan, Viewz etc... but is that overkill? A 20" or 21" is a great size for my workspace,

Thanks for your input!
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Read my post here, it might help you. http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthrea...rading&p=1986702286&viewfull=1#post1986702286

Up until my move over to "professional" hardware I've been using higher end consumer monitors and DataColor spyder color calibration systems which are seriously GREAT and do work but of course grading/color level hardware is on a whole other level. It depends where you really need to be with your output. For web, etc.. consider PA272, a Dreamcolor and good color calibration system like X-Rite i1.
 
Just read some reviews and make sure you can return it.. also check BH's used department for an easy 20% savings on possibly even better monitors.
 
No I did not personally read reviews on the monitor you linked, I just meant make sure to do as much research on it as you can, or find a store where you can go see it, or if you buy mail order make sure you can return it incase you don't like it. I am not familiar with the viewz brand at all unfortunately.

If you are color conscious but not coloring or grading look at any of the higher end consumer monitors like Dell, HP and NEC. Dell has a cheap line that is supposedly really good for the price. I forget the model, would have to search liftgammagain forums - one of the engineers from Dell was discussing it in full detail. etc..
 
ok. I called Viewz and the rep told me they have a very low to none return rate on this model. He said folks think it is going to be mediocre but end up being quite impressed once they take delivery. But I will confirm about the return possibility.
 
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