HACKED T2i VS GH2 Which Has The Best Video And Best Bang For The Buck Now ?

the t2i (with magic lantern) has a lot more features
but the gh2 delivers much cleaner images
but still some people prefer the canon look (colors) so much as to jump through lots of hoops in order to avoid aliasing/moire

right now I have a t2i, and I love it, but aliasing/moire are not that easy to avoid; if I had to buy a camera today, it would probably be the GH2, but that's a very personal issue; if I had money to spare I'd have one of each
 
It's personal preference. The GH2 has a cleaner image, but for me, I like the colors, the native lens choices and the extra kick in shallow DOF that you get with the Canons. I got robbed recently and had to start over. After watching a million vimeo videos, I still bought a Canon because for me, the aesthetic is more important than a super sharp image, and I like the Canon aesthetic better. But yes, the moire does suck.

And NO, you cannot shoot a Panny super flat and make it look just like a Canon. Impossible. I tried. You can get sort of close with the colors, but the different sensor size makes it impossible to mimic the look of one or the other.

With that said, there are probably lots of people who like the Panny Aesthetic better. It's very subjective.

Both cameras have a very different look. Even when the new Canons come out with a sharper, no moire image, the 2 cameras will still have a very different look. You just have to choose which look you like better.

With Canon's you do get more faults right now, but a new Canon is certainly coming very soon. Hoping at NAB in April.
 
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I much, much prefer the aesthetic of the GH2 to the 7D, which I recently sold after owning it for a year. Can't stand Canon's way of rendering skin tones. GH2 does it much better. Plus the GH2 is just SO much easier to shoot with. It feels like a camera meant for me, not some hijacked still camera that fights me the whole way.

If your question is just which has better video the answer is clearly the GH2, and except for the few who prefer Canon's "aesthetic" over the GH2 (not sure why anyone would, since it has inaccurate colors and ugly moire and aliasing), basically everyone will tell you the GH2 is the best HDSLR on the market right now.
 
For me, it was a question of lens availability. There is a very strong secondary (used) market for Canon lenses and it seemed there was less variety and higher [rices for the micro 4/3 lenses. (I went with the 60D)
 
mitchalo said:
For me, it was a question of lens availability. There is a very strong secondary (used) market for Canon lenses and it seemed there was less variety and higher [rices for the micro 4/3 lenses. (I went with the 60D)
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I agree only if you are looking at factory lenses. The beauty of the GH/GF's is that you don't have to only use m43 lenses.
 
My only advice for you is just to watch a bunch of vimeo videos and try out both cameras, which is what I did. Jester might prefer the look of the GH2, but for me even with Canon's flaws, I much prefer the way the Canons do skins tones, color and DOF. Everyone is different, you just have to look past what "everyone" is saying and just decide what it is you are trying to say with your films.

And yes, "aesthetics" is very important. You choose how you want your picture to look based on what camera you use and what lenses you choose. Otherwise you're just a camera operator and not an artist. You could spend hours tweaking your stuff in post (which is what I do a lot of since I work in T.V. commercials and promos). But for me when I get to call the shots, I just like it when it comes out of the camera close to what I want it to look like, and keep the post tweaking to a minimum.
 
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Jester2138 said:
I much, much prefer the aesthetic of the GH2 to the 7D, which I recently sold after owning it for a year. Can't stand Canon's way of rendering skin tones. GH2 does it much better. Plus the GH2 is just SO much easier to shoot with. It feels like a camera meant for me, not some hijacked still camera that fights me the whole way.

If your question is just which has better video the answer is clearly the GH2, and except for the few who prefer Canon's "aesthetic" over the GH2 (not sure why anyone would, since it has inaccurate colors and ugly moire and aliasing), basically everyone will tell you the GH2 is the best HDSLR on the market right now.
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This is not entirely true and based more on your opinion. A 60D is a better stills camera and has proper weight + size. The gh2 in comparison feels like a toy and if you are doing handheld work you can forget about using any kind of image stabilization as it simply does not exist outside of panasonic and some other 4/3rd lenses.

Also the resolution on the lcd is very poor on the gh2, where as the 60d is actually in the millions. Yes the Gh2 can provide a cleaner/sharper image with almost no moire at all, but personally that is not a look I like at all. I actually add grain and dirty up my footage to give it more of an organic feel, which is the main reason I still feel these Canon cameras provide a beautiful image.

Finally finding wide lenses for a Gh2 can be a problem as well + lack of accessories. Specifically a battery grip which I don't even think exist for a Gh2. OP you better do your homework regarding this.
 
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This is not entirely true and based more on your opinion. A 60D is a better stills camera and has proper weight + size. The gh2 in comparison feels like a toy and if you are doing handheld work you can forget about using any kind of image stabilization as it simply does not exist outside of panasonic and some other 4/3rd lenses.

Also the resolution on the lcd is very poor on the gh2, where as the 60d is actually in the millions. Yes the Gh2 can provide a cleaner/sharper image with almost no moire at all, but personally that is not a look I like at all. I actually add grain and dirty up my footage to give it more of an organic feel, which is the main reason I still feel these Canon cameras provide a beautiful image.

Finally finding wide lenses for a Gh2 can be a problem as well + lack of accessories. Specifically a battery grip which I don't even think exist for a Gh2. OP you better do your homework regarding this.
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The part about the battery grip is true. Alot of people are going with the 8+ hour RC Car Battery solution for the GH2 because of the lack of a battery grip: http://vimeo.com/19591333
 
I think they both have something to offer. If you like the Canon soft look, which seems a bit more organic (especially with a promist on the lens) then go with the Canon. The Gh2 is super sharp, and can use hundreds of different lenses. If you can afford both, Then go that route. The gh2 has no limit on recording, which can make it somewhat of an event camera, where the Canon can only record 4gigs.
 
vision_filmz said:
This is not entirely true and based more on your opinion. The gh2 in comparison feels like a toy and if you are doing handheld work you can forget about using any kind of image stabilization as it simply does not exist outside of panasonic and some other 4/3rd lenses.
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The GH2 is far from a toy. It's smaller and lighter which may give one that impression at first but I've had it for a while now and it's help up to my use just as well as my old 7D, which I don't think you'd say is built like a toy. The GH2 is very well built, it's just smaller and lighter so everyone thinks its not. As for lenses, weird, I thought the exact same thing applied to any camera in the world. Please point me to the Canon HDSLR that has in-body image stabilization!

vision_filmz said:
Also the resolution on the lcd is very poor on the gh2, where as the 60d is actually in the millions.
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The resolution on the GH2's LCD is indeed low, but perfectly fine for me. If you're using manual focus either use the EVF which is AWESOME or use an external monitor. That's pretty easy and has been standard operating procedure on any Canon HDSLR for years (but with awkward LCD loupes instead of a real viewfinder), so I don't know how it's a mark against the GH2.

vision_filmz said:
Yes the Gh2 can provide a cleaner/sharper image with almost no moire at all, but personally that is not a look I like at all. I actually add grain and dirty up my footage to give it more of an organic feel, which is the main reason I still feel these Canon cameras provide a beautiful image.
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Whoa, I never thought I'd hear a dvxuser wanting moire and artifacts and low-resolution/softness/out of focus look and aliasing and all that stuff... That's stuff that can all be added in post, but not taken away. There's a reason shooting flat on HDSLRs (and RED) is so popular - because it gives you the most flexibility to do what you want rather than locking you into one look from the get-go.

vision_filmz said:
OP you better do your homework regarding this.
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Heh, agreed.
 
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