H4n output to JuicedLink

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We are having a shoot this weekend which will be our first with DSLR. We are using a Canon 7D, a Zoom H4n and a JuicedLink 454. The thought process is to record to H4n with the variety of wireless and shotgun mics we have, but then output that to the JuicedLink so we can record on camera (this is a 48 Hour Film shoot so we want a quality option we dont have to sync if need be).

However, it seems that the H4n only has a single line out. I have read that you can output th recording the camera or the JuicedLink from this output, but I need to know if there is anything special we need to take into account? We are not sound guys, so this is new to us. I plan on acquiring a Mini to XLR adapter, but I dont know if this is enough.

Also, would we be able to split the output from the H4n so that it could be outputted to the JuicedLink AND monitored via headphone?
 
You should be able to use the Juicedlink's provided 3.5mm male to 3.5mm male cable from the Zoom H4n's headphone out port into the Juicedlink DT454 input.

The Juicedlink DT454 does have a headphone port on the mixer itself, so you won't need to put a y-splitter on the H4n (in order to monitor headphones with one end, and the other end going into the Juicedlink DT454).

It's a bit scary as none of the Canon DSLRs have live audio meters while recording video (the 5D Mark II only has it in a sub-menu). So while the Juicedlink does have realtime meters, you are only seeing what's going into the MIXER, not the DSLR itself. So that's why people recommend the Zoom H4n, Tascam DR-100, and so on besides an on camera mixer. I have the Juicedlink DT454 myself, and it works well, but it's scary because you aren't recording dual system. If the 5D or 7D had live audio levels while recording, I think the Juicedlink DT454 or Beachtek DXA-5DA or DXA-SLRs would have zero risk.

Also typically using sub $5 passive audio y-splitters typically reduces the volume or signal coming out of the source, unless the source is powered itself. A generic splitter coming out of a passive camera mixer would lose volume, but the same generic splitter coming out of say an ipod to say two headphones generally wouldn't lose much output.
 
allantab said:
It's a bit scary as none of the Canon DSLRs have live audio meters while recording video (the 5D Mark II only has it in a sub-menu). So while the Juicedlink does have realtime meters, you are only seeing what's going into the MIXER, not the DSLR itself. So that's why people recommend the Zoom H4n, Tascam DR-100, and so on besides an on camera mixer.
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It is quite scary without the meters, but sufficient testing should calm those fears a bit. I know from my own experience not to look at the 454 meters (once the mixer is calibrated according to the manual's settings for the 7D). Those meters are not accurate at all and it's best to record things a bit hot and just listen to what your headphones pickup as peaking.

But I really recommend shooting a few test shots with audio and seeing how you like it in your NLE.
 
Popsiclestand said:
It is quite scary without the meters, but sufficient testing should calm those fears a bit. I know from my own experience not to look at the 454 meters (once the mixer is calibrated according to the manual's settings for the 7D). Those meters are not accurate at all and it's best to record things a bit hot and just listen to what your headphones pickup as peaking.

But I really recommend shooting a few test shots with audio and seeing how you like it in your NLE.
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Yeah, I've shot with the DT454 on camera, but I didn't properly calibrate it with my 5D or T2i just yet. (On the 5D audio level meters, I do go about 3/4 way for most interview style videos)

Juicedlink just recently released some videos on how to calibrate it with your DSLR

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/juic...7x90/dt454-meter-calibration-instruction.html
 
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