Google will store all your photos, and 1080p video for free

It's unlimited only for 16-megapixel photos and 1080p videos. Bigger ones count against your storage limit. Plus it doesn't look like you can store RAW.

If that doesn't turn you off, I think that the cloud is like an airplane and your hard drive is like driving a car. One feels more dangerous, you're not in control, but it's actually safer. One feels safer, you're more in control, but you're actually more likely to die.

Keeping up your own back-up system is hard, even for geeks. What if your hard drive fails? What if your computer catches a virus? What if your house is burglarized, tornadoed, or burns to the ground? Do you keep a back-up off site? How often is it made?

My files are backed up to the cloud automatically, effortlessly. The mystical people in the land of Oz make copies and store them in different data centers in different cities. They have gates, guards, and retina scanners. Their servers don't run Windows but some stripped-down form of Linux. The data on the hard drives is encrypted. The hard drives, when thrown out, are physically shredded.


Something else to consider is that these companies' names are on the line. If a big break-in happens or word leaks that the company misused its data, the damage to the company's reputation and bottom line could be catastrophic, as people flock to Company B or go back to home-made solutions. And damage to reputation takes years to repair, if you can even do it. If they only do what they say they're going to do with my data, I'm fine, which is that they're going to let a robot peruse my data, to find patterns, so that another robot on another website can serve me ads or whatever that I might find more interesting.

If by some chance some weirdo breaks in and starts thumbing through files, there are millions of users that he might hit first, simply by virtue of the cloud service's number of customers. And once he finds my files, he finds --- what? The worst thing I can think of is that he finds something that lets him break into my bank website. But my bank website guarantees to repay for me for money lost to break-ins, like my credit card promises not to hold me liable for charges by someone who steals it.

I don't work for Google, and I'm not saying that you should store such-and-such on it. I'm saying that I've weighed the pros and cons, and for a lot of things I trust a few, well-established companies to keep them for me.
 
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On a related note, I just came across an article that stated that, as of now, an average manufacturer cost for a 128 GB SSD is ~ $50 and the 256 GB ~ $90. The full retail prices are around $90 and $150 accordingly.
 
I don't think there has to be advertisement "on the application itself". But I'm pretty sure they will gather boatloads of data about you, and then make sure other ads are more appropriate. I mean 5 years ago google said they would make intelligent real-time suggestions before you even know what you need to search for, now the future is here. They are demoing something that basically scans your emails, reads them and make notes in your calender, gives you heads up on the weather for the place you are gonna fly to in two weeks, all based of emails and the like...

This is the "cool/scary" thing about google, they don't shove things down your throat, but they read you better than anyone else and can "trick you" with targeted ads... 5-10 years from now, they know that at 8am they should show you coffe ads (for the coffee shop that is on your route from dropping of the kids), at 11am food ads, etc...
 
Who cares if they accurately target ads at me. Isn't that better than inaccurately targeting ads at me? What is the concern here, that we may see so many ads for things we really want that we'll go on a spending spree and all go broke? I don't understand this fear of accurate advertising. If anything I'd say it is useful; certainly inaccurate advertising is of no use to us. Imagine if an accurate ad advertised a lens I didn't know existed but thought would be useful, which I then bought, got better shots with, and as a result of a quality increase in my work, made more money. This is a problem?

And then they're going to gather a bunch of data from...videos files I upload online. So they're what, going to have a filmmaker employee at Google who analyzes my wedding video footage, see that I'm using a C100 with L-series lenses, just judging by the footage, and then suggest in the ads to me to buy more C100s and L-series lenses? Really? It's just video footage. Nobody is going to watch it and computers aren't sophisticated enough to "gather data" from raw video footage to then target me for ads. If I'm uploading personal documents, tax forms, e-mails, etc., then maybe, sure, but I think we're mostly talking about uploading video files.
 
It is a double edged sword, maybe not so fun if you are at work, logged into your gmail account and all the ads say "we help you get a new job" in front of your boss.

They are not interested in your businesses to upload videos/photos, because if will give them "false data", professionals use RAW and higher than 16mp. They want average Joe, to upload and safe keep his files with them, the fee isn't licensing rights like other companies, but simply "analyzing rights". They aren't analyzing the actual gear you use, their software is actually looking at the pictures to determine what is in them. As I said, it is "cool/scary" depending on how it is used.
 
Who cares if they accurately target ads at me.

It's not always about the ads. It's about data. The ads are just a revenue stream.

And then they're going to gather a bunch of data from...videos files I upload online. So they're what, going to have a filmmaker employee at Google who analyzes my wedding video footage, see that I'm using a C100 with L-series lenses, just judging by the footage, and then suggest in the ads to me to buy more C100s and L-series lenses?.

No, it's far more likely a Google algorithm will scan the banks of photos uploaded. It will check the metadata for GPS and data information, and store if available. Then the facial recognition routine will scan the faces of people in the photos, and attempt to identify them as well. Do this enough times with enough photos, and you can start building a database on where people were on a particular day, and with whom. Get enough of that data, and it's rather valuable.

The facial recognition has already been implemented; Facebook already "tags" people's names in photos you upload, and asks you to confirm identities. Plenty of FB users already do.
 
Metadata tells you the time and camera settings, sometimes; the camera settings aren't going to be useful to Google. Many pro cameras (such as the C100s I use) don't have GPS information. I still don't see much value or invasion of privacy for Google if they find out that Joey Bob and Sally Sue were at a wedding I filmed at 5:11pm in Tampa, FL through facial recognition and GPS coordinates. I don't care if Google knows when and where I filmed a wedding. The only real use for this that I can imagine is in hunting down criminals if Google were to share this data with the police if a wanted fugitive happened to be at an event I was filming, which again, seems to be a good thing.

Now the whole idea of "enough times with enough photos," so they're not just using my wedding images, and are creating a pool to keep track of where people are. I probably on average get uploaded online through photos once a week at weddings from the photographers photos I end up in, then I'm probably on camera from occasional smart phone photos which go online, and various security cameras at stores, but those typically aren't uploaded online, particularity not to Google drive.

But let's say Google Drive becomes moderately popular, perhaps I'd end up in an image on it once or twice a month, for which Google then knows where I am that often. Again, so what? How is this valuable information that I was at a wedding one day and at a grocery store another day? I'm at home now, am planning to get an oil change today, to stop at the bank, and am driving 650 miles to New Orleans tomorrow for a shoot; I just posted this information of my locations on the Internet and now you can sell this valuable information to...no you can't. Even if I posted the addresses it's useless information that most people don't care about. I still don't see your point.

Now if there were security cameras throughout the city which were all being uploaded to a central drive (like is falsely portrayed in some movies) that would be very useful for the police, but probably not so much for making a profit off of (unless they start a blackmailing division), nor is Google drive looking to get live feeds of security cameras.
 
yes i would like to know as well HOW all this data they gather translates to $$$$. my tiny pea brain doesnt get it.
 
Who cares if they accurately target ads at me. .

This is the way I have felt all along. The idea of someone trying to sell me stuff with ads just doesn't terrify me. Are they going to trick me into buying a new tripod I didn't really want? Not really. Are they going to trick me into paying to much for a new tripod? I can compare prices on a dozen sites in minutes, so probably not. What's the big worry? I just have no idea.
 
Now if there were security cameras throughout the city which were all being uploaded to a central drive (like is falsely portrayed in some movies) that would be very useful for the police, but probably not so much for making a profit off of (unless they start a blackmailing division), nor is Google drive looking to get live feeds of security cameras.

There is actually a system that cities can buy that already does this. Large cities with a big budget and lots of crime like Las Vegas already have this in place. The computers system is actually centrally located, it accesses bank security cams, parking lot security cams, traffic cams, atm cams, and so forth and will actually constantly scan the camera feeds in real time coming from police cars. Police can actually track someone with face recognition or license plate recognition all over a city. I saw a documentary on the system, but I can't remember the name of it. Yes, a documentary, not a sci fi movie.
 
There is actually a system that cities can buy that already does this. Large cities with a big budget and lots of crime like Las Vegas already have this in place. The computers system is actually centrally located, it accesses bank security cams, parking lot security cams, traffic cams, atm cams, and so forth and will actually constantly scan the camera feeds in real time coming from police cars. Police can actually track someone with face recognition or license plate recognition all over a city. I saw a documentary on the system, but I can't remember the name of it. Yes, a documentary, not a sci fi movie.
Perhaps I misspoke then on that regard (though I also meant that to include home and store security cams which often aren't hooked up to a streaming system), but Google Drive isn't tapped into that and if they were they probably wouldn't be able to monetize it, which is the real point here. And even if they were allowed to hook into the city's camera systems and then could somehow gather some kind of data from that to better advertise to us, then I still don't see the big problem.

As long as Google isn't turning on my phone in the bathroom to monitor the sounds of my bowl movements in hopes of giving me advertisements for the best toilet paper to suit my particular needs, then I'm still not seeing a problem here.
 
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Perhaps I misspoke then on that regard, but Google Drive isn't tapped into that and if they were they probably wouldn't be able to monetize it, which is the real point here.

I agree. They just want to sell ads to people trying to sell you goods and services. Yes, they know that you like chocolate ice cream. I just personally don't feel my privacy has been invaded because Ben and Jerry know I like chocolate ice cream and want to sell me some Boom Chocolatta!
 
Get used to it. You just described the internet in general and the future of marketing and advertising. Don't like it then you better find a rock to live under. Even my company uses marketing automation software to help pin point ads and marketing to our customers based on how they use our website.

We as a society always seem to Target the giant and forget about everybody else doing it. We criticize Wal-Mart for their employment policies and yet never criticize Target, Best Buy or any other retail store who equally pays people very little money. We target McDonalds for unhealthy fast food as if they are the only ones doing it and yet Wendys and Burger King have more calories and fat content in their food. People are getting fatter from the other fast food chains than they are from McDonalds yet we always seem to pick on McDonalds. Why do we do this? Why pick on just Google when even Apple does the same thing. What the heck do you think Siri is doing every time you tell her to search for something obscene and funny. She remembers that and Apple uses that data to make your phone smarter and to market stuff to you a bit better. You know you had an iPhone for too long when it starts auto correcting words into profanity because it and Apple knows how you usually speak to your friends.

So lets say what should really have been meant. People don't trust cloud computing and storing their personal lives on public servers. Fair enough and I completely understand. Just don't try to label Google as the only company interested in on-line analytical marketing data.

Boom.
 
FWIW, besides the anonymous online presence on occasions, I use several different browsers for the various searches, so I don't get the usual Google+ or Facebook notices whenever I click on something.

And, as Eric said, today I am searching for high end audio amps, tomorrow for turbocharged and/or hybrid autos, the next day, I am looking at video cameras, global oil and gas information, the political developments in Russia/Ukraine, Kim Kardassian or whatever and Google can't keep up with me. Even on YouTube, my "recommended" clips range from Stanislav Belkovsky to Marika Oszvald to NX1 videos and, after they hit a dozen of these "you might also like this" suggestions, they have to rotate their list. And I have way more than a dozen each week.
 
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