Good things for HMC-XXX Sonys new NXCAM!

[Barry_Green]

Film cameras have a mechanical rolling shutter. People have been working around it for 100 years.

That's because film doesn't do wobble, skew, or jello. Film's shutter is almost completely unlike CMOS's rolling shutter. The only similarity is that you can get a little bit of flash-banding, but you certainly don't get any of the other effects that CMOS does.

We've been watching feature films with "rolling shutter" footage for a couple years now. District 9, Che, Slumdog Millionaire, etc. CMOS is not the limiting factor in people's success in the great majority of cases.

This is completely true. You do have to learn what the limitations of your cameras are, and work around them if possible. You usually can, and in cases where you just can't work around it, you rent another type of camera that doesn't have that limitation.

 

[Barry_Green]

Are all CMOS cameras using the rolling shutter?

As of right now, basically yes, all CMOS cameras on the market have the rolling shutter. There are a few higher-end global shutters available but in the practical market, no. It's all rolling shutter.

is there a fix for that ugly effect?

You watched the video, the "fix" is usually to avoid the circumstances it happens in. Or you can get a $500 plug-in from The Foundry that goes a long way towards cleaning up the various CMOS rolling shutter artifacts.

 

[Cranky]

Canon announced the updated HF S series: HF S21, HF S20, and HF S200. All have 3.5-inch touch-sensitive LCD with 900K resolution. This is what I call an upgrade. Canon always seem to learn from Sony's ideas, albeit being several years late. Now it is Panasonic's turn. C'mon, Panasonic, do the HMC150 justice by putting a nice large hi-res LCD on it.

 

[David Saraceno]

Canon seems to release new consumer AVCHD cams as regularly as Epson releases inkjet printers.

I don't see much difference in the new Canon products to deal with significant issues such as low light sensitivity

Hope I'm wrong on this one.

 

[dcloud]

native 23p on the hfs21 would be a great feature...

 

[Cranky]

Canon seems to release new consumer AVCHD cams as regularly as Epson releases inkjet printers.

Is this a good enough reason for Panasonic to stick to old tech? Modern Sony and now Canon consumer cams have 3.2- or 3.5-inch hi-res LCD. The Z5/Z7/Prime have hi-res LCD. As for Panasonic, only the HPX300 can compete in this department.

I don't see much difference in the new Canon products to deal with significant issues such as low light sensitivity.

Looking at the test numbers and actual footage it looks like the HF S series delivers about the same sensitivity as the HMC40, at least in 24p mode. Older HV20/30/40 and HG10 seem to be faster.