Good B Camera for EX1

Interestingly, on that Macworld video, toward the end, he's showing a Final Cut import menu with XDCam EX settings. Does he mean to suggest that when using ISO format, one uses the XDCam import setting for this camera?

Had a closer look on the JVC site and it is quite a bit smaller than it's photo suggests. Certainly the ability to record for long periods is good for those inaccessible camera locations where we have to get out the 12' ladder during intermission and reload tapes on our current 'nook & cranny' cam.

Some concerns are the 1/4" CCDs. Pixel shifting. Lack of depth of field limiting (at 6X tele, the HV20 has barely enough differential focus that faces in the audience are still recognizeable when the conductor's face is in focus) would be a bigger issue--we want the audience to be visible, but a blur so no one's face is recognizeable.

I would probably favor a CMOS imager to best match with the images we get from the XDCams, but we're already doing extensive tweaking in post with the HV20 footage to clean it up and match the color up with the other cams.

Should be interesting to see what the street price is. Of course, JVC's consumer camcorders have not had a stellar reliability record, so I'll find myself skeptical about the reliability of this new cam until it's been at work for a while with few reported failures.
 
I am thinking that this iso format will be one of two things:

1: M2T format (MP2 transport stream), just like the format recorded by the likes of the Sony CF solid state recorder and other 1394 firewire hard driver recorders (firestore etc)

or

2: The same format as we have with our XDCAM EX (MPG4 avi wrapped MPG2)

It would be great if it was option 2 for us, but a lot of people would probably prefer option 1.
 
Yes, the HV20 is quite noisy with its 1/3" chip, hence the fact that the JVC has 1/4" chips would raise equal concern in the noise dept.
 
EX1 is a good B Camera to an EX3 more like.

Having bought the EX3 (I was going with an EX1 when it came out but decided to wait a while and glad I did) I would almost be loathe to buy an EX1 now instead of another EX3.
Only big reason would be to use it in a good Steadycam.
 
I'd much rather keep my EX1 than have an EX3. The EX3 is too big and that sort of on the sholder eurgonomics felt like more work on the arm than the EX1...

The only thing I would like is the option of putting on a longer lens for sports.
 
I'd much rather keep my EX1 than have an EX3. The EX3 is too big and that sort of on the sholder eurgonomics felt like more work on the arm than the EX1...

The only thing I would like is the option of putting on a longer lens for sports.

Sorry Guy got to totally disagree. I sold my EX1 last week and picked up my EX3 two days ago. Leaps and bunds better ergonomically, nice balance compared to the pull to the right of the EX1. Also removable lens, dial for frame rates and a few other things makes the step up well worth it.
 
Sorry Guy got to totally disagree. I sold my EX1 last week and picked up my EX3 two days ago. Leaps and bunds better ergonomically, nice balance compared to the pull to the right of the EX1. Also removable lens, dial for frame rates and a few other things makes the step up well worth it.

No problem, we all have our preferences but to me, when I put an EX3 on my shoulder it felt awful and very very front heavy.
 
Well I have been looking around for a crash camera to compliment my EX-3. My choice so far is the HF-11, good camera, cheap and tiny. The other thing is the 24Mb data rate so it's much better than HDV. A producer I work with bought a HF-100 on my recommendation and it is a truly awesome little camera. I was shocked the first time I used it. Pretty decent in low light, for a single chip camera. It's so much fun to play with but I think the extra money on the HF-11 will be worth it. For a pure crash camera the HF-100 is good because you don't feel too bad losing the camera. I also got it because the HF-100 and HF-10/11 all shoot 24p, although you have to remove the pull down in post but you also have to transcode the AVCHD into ProRes or something else to edit anyhow so just add that to the process.

Anyway just a few ideas.
 
I've got an SD9 as my C camera/crash cam.. amazing pictures. Shame its only 17mbps.. i love the fact its got 3ccd instead of cmos though, i've seen too many issues on small cmos censors.
 
hopefully i dont get attacked, but what about a D90? If you use a 35 adapter on your ex it might cut nicely with some color correction...
 
I have a D90 and my impressions are that the video mode is one of the least usable features it has, the Canon 5D MKII is a much better option although it has some serious limitations of its own too. I am hopeful in a few models these DSLRs will actually have something decent and controlable.
 
GuyB thanks for the info. The canon is a great camera, I already have some nikon glass, which is why I brought up the nikon and the price point is great.
 
How about the HVR Z7U.
I'm liking this camera for run and gun.
I dig the lens.
It's also nice to have the tape transport to use as a deck if you get a gig where the client has tape to digitize.
 
Whoops. Just noticed that it hasn't been released yet.

Well... if anyone with an EX1 gets one, I'd appreciate the feedback.
 
I am thinking that this iso format will be one of two things:

1: M2T format (MP2 transport stream), just like the format recorded by the likes of the Sony CF solid state recorder and other 1394 firewire hard driver recorders (firestore etc)

or

2: The same format as we have with our XDCAM EX (MPG4 avi wrapped MPG2)

It would be great if it was option 2 for us, but a lot of people would probably prefer option 1.

According to the latest brochure. Recording format is MPEG-2 long GOP. And JVCs "Pro HD clip manager" looks identical to Sony's "Clip Browser" software. Check out the new brochure here. http://pro.jvc.com/pro/attributes/CA...00_kcs8409.pdf I have arranged a demo as soon as the camera is available, looking forward to it.
 
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