Going Wider Tokina 11-16mm vs SLR Magic 12mm

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I have the Panny 20mm but I need to go wider for interior low light in a dance studio with possibility of lots of stage lights going off and n (afraid of to much flares).

Go Tokina 11-16mm vs SLR Magic 12mm? Something Im not considering!

Thoughts? And thanks!
 
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11 - 16? Really, what's the point making a lens with such a restricted zoom range. It brings you what, 3 inches closer?

The 12mm is faster, I'd go with that.
 
Jim Simon said:
11 - 16? Really, what's the point making a lens with such a restricted zoom range. It brings you what, 3 inches closer?

The 12mm is faster, I'd go with that.
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When you reach the wide end of lenses, 5mm of zoom is pretty big. On a S35mm sensor with the 11-16, it's the difference between 90 degrees of horizontal angle of view and 69.1 degrees of horizontal angle of view (slightly less on the m4/3 sensor).
I'll say that I love my Tokina but the flares can be pretty distracting in an uncontrolled environment. I don't own an SLR magic but I've heard it flares similarly wide open, but flare is almost gone by f2-2.8.
 
SLR Magic has less distortion at 12mm than the Tokina. Checked this myself. I believe close focus on SLR 12 is also damned-near macro. It's also faster (dur). Flares wide open, you may or may not like it, goes away by about 2.4~2.8.

They're both about as sharp as the other at 2.8, with the slight edge going to SLR Magic due to the fact that naturally glass gets sharper when stopped down.

THe TOkina is a larger and heavier lens, which is kind of a plus for video/film use, the SLR magic does have a beefy gear that you can buy (it's great, decently long throw with the gear on).

Naturally, the Tokina is still PL worthy, hence why it's been geared out by several companies. It also covers the range of 11-16, so that's always a great thing to have.

Can't go wrong with either one, it's generally down to wanting a fast wide or a range of wides in a slower speed.

I have SLR 12, really like it, cant' wait to put it on Blackmagic.
 
A plus for the 11-16 is that you'll be able to use it with several other cameras as long as you get the proper adapter, where as the 12mm will only cover m4/3 (I believe, maybe I'm wrong), so if you ever switch to another camera or rent another camera, you are most likely going to be out of luck.
 
The Tokina 11-16mm has a new version II which is helps against flares. The first version is very very prone to flares , but since I do Music Videos I love them though.
 
Wait, if you have Panny 20mm, why would you buy Tokina 11-16, how is that considered wide, putting that Tokina on GH2 wont widen up your angle of view...will it? :D
 
The Tokina at 11mm would be nearly twice as wide as the Panasonic at 20mm. Even when fully zoomed in to 16mm, it's still wider than the 20mm.
 
To hell with the crop.

EDIT: okay, that comes across harsh, but -- I just really wanted to say it. :)

For any lens mounted on any given camera, smaller mm = wider field of view. No matter what, an 11mm lens is going to be wider than a 20mm lens, when both lenses are mounted on the same camera. Doesn't matter what camera the lens was "made for", that's irrelevent. A mm = a mm = a mm, and when mounted on the same camera, smaller mm = wider field of view, period.
 
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