Glasses-free 3D TV coming soon?

that's true, my buddy has one eye...we don't invite him to 3d movies anymore. He says they're not worth the money.
 
Zissou said:
unless you only have 1 eye...
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This isn't true. The brain makes up for the depth perception in our cycloptic friends.

(I don't mean to sound like a douche. I was just amazed when I learned this myself and thought I'd share.)
 
I can see in theory how this would work, but if each eye sees something different on the screen b/c they're a couple inches apart I wonder what happens when you move your head to take a drink of water.

This is very much, a I'll believe it when I see it.
 
I've seen glasses-free 3DTV at NAB. Granted, at the time I saw it it was pretty low-res, and it was showing a video game, so it was probably something like 640x480 or maybe even 320x240, I don't know; it looked like an old Mario-style game, something to do with chasing a bank robber.

But it was frankly stunning.

IMO, 3D glasses will never catch on with the viewing public, but glasses-free 3D is pretty darn cool.
 
I've seen several glasses-free 3D displays; both lenticular lens displays and parallax barrier displays. I've also recently seen those cellphones with 3D displays on a previous trip to Japan.

From my experience you need to be in a sweet spot to get the full 3D effect, outside that sweet spot it doesn't really work well. It works much better on a small screen since you can position it better, and its pretty hard to see on larger screens. The Sharp LL-15 for instance, is just 15", and that sweet spot was fairly small from my recollection.; I'm not sure how effective it'll be for long viewing sessions.

But this technology is moving forward so fast, I have no clue what Toshiba has up their sleeves. I'm guessing it'll be a parallax barrier display, likely closer to monitor size rather then a full-sized HDTV.
 
At a show at the Javits Convention Center 2 years ago Duart Photo Labs was showing a glasses free 3D TV that the guy at the booth told me was developed by them. The video they were showing was absolutely stunning.
 
Barry_Green said:
I've seen glasses-free 3DTV at NAB. Granted, at the time I saw it it was pretty low-res, and it was showing a video game, so it was probably something like 640x480 or maybe even 320x240, I don't know; it looked like an old Mario-style game, something to do with chasing a bank robber.

But it was frankly stunning.

IMO, 3D glasses will never catch on with the viewing public, but glasses-free 3D is pretty darn cool.
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They had some sets there this year that were HD to my understanding, don't know if full 1080. Either way, they looked great!

Catch is that the pre-processing needed to generate the 5 sub-images to drive them took something like 2 minutes per frame ... so a way out still apparently.

- Mikko
 
> needless to say he enjoyed avatar 3d a lot less than the rest of us.

I'm not sure that's possible...
 
Saw glasses free 3D at EXPO in Shanghai last June. It was in the Seimens Pavilion, about a 42" LCD? with a lot of light surrounding the set.

Showed a program of interplanetary travel with the usual fx. Very impressive at 90d to the screen and I tried it off centre .. 3D went flat at about 30d each side. A lot of interest shown in it.

They handed out tickets to get in the China Pavilion at 8am each morning, all gone in 10mins. Apparently they had large 3D screens in there, did anyone get to see them? We didn't, but we did get to travel on the Maglev train at 400kmh, now THAT'S 3D without glasses. :tongue:

Cheers.
 
One of the reasons why 3D is a difficult sell for non-animated films is worldwide distribution. The problem is anytime you have subtitling. With animation this is less of an issue for voiceover. It is very difficult to read for 2 hours in 3D, this is compounded by the glasses which are not very good at peripheral perception. If non eyeglass 3D was to come in, this would aid considerably.
 
Not to be a spoil sport, but 3D can't replace a good story. I didn't feel any more 'there' in Avitar.

This is the third wave of 3D movies and to me it looks like a few producers are over relying on it as a gimmick like they did in the 50's-60's just before 3D died out the first and second times.

I think the only reason the studios are jumping on the band wagon is that they've been sold a bill of goods that this will prevent piracy. Unfortunately it won't. Just take one channel and you have a non-blurred 2D image.

I did 3D color separation channels on animations 30 years ago. The technology is better, but the same issues are there because people's eyes are different distances apart, projectors are different, etc.

I'll take a compelling 2D movie over an over hyped 3D movie any time. Actual holograms may finally make a difference, but I don't see that coming any time soon.
 
Raster said:
Saw glasses free 3D at EXPO in Shanghai last June. It was in the Seimens Pavilion, about a 42" LCD? with a lot of light surrounding the set.

Showed a program of interplanetary travel with the usual fx. Very impressive at 90d to the screen and I tried it off centre .. 3D went flat at about 30d each side. A lot of interest shown in it.

They handed out tickets to get in the China Pavilion at 8am each morning, all gone in 10mins. Apparently they had large 3D screens in there, did anyone get to see them? We didn't, but we did get to travel on the Maglev train at 400kmh, now THAT'S 3D without glasses. :tongue:

Cheers.
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Saw the same planetary demo. The Viewing angle was very unforgiving. a bit off from the sweet spot and 3D effect was gone.
 
I agree that this 3D thing is killing itself by overdoing it. Half of all the movies out right now are 3D and it's starting to lose it's novelty again. I was always a HUGE 3D fan and when i was a little kid remember freaking out in excitement at Friday the 13th III in 3D (with that goofy disco music theme) and Jaws 3D and Amitiville 3D. But look at these movies now and WOW are they bad! So bad almost unwatchable.

Step it Up 3D i agree as well = WTF!? Oh boy lemme guess they are gonna toss some girl straight out into the air and you can see her panties in 3D...

3D porn?

Now that would be interesting to say the least... might be frightening as well...
 
I've said this before but I find it relevant.

Ironically, 3D movies pull me out of a movie and remind me that I'm sitting in a theater. This is exactly what I don't want. I like to get sucked in by a film and after a while the screen disappears. 3D is fun for amusement park rides and the such. But personally I hope the fad dies again really really soon. I preferred Avatar in 2D myself.
 
Keeganxt said:
that's true, my buddy has one eye...we don't invite him to 3d movies anymore. He says they're not worth the money.
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Laughing at people with handicaps reveals a lot about your character, none of it very good. I would never hire you for anything after having read that post.
 
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