GH2 official discussion thread

I don't have a GH2 yet, but I've been testing the G2, which has many of the same features, including Extended Optical Zoom and touch screen focusing. While the Oly 14-54mm Mark II auto-focuses consistently and reliably, it's neither quick nor silent. In AFS mode on both GH1 and G2, the Mark II will execute a short 2-step, in-and-out maneuver to auto-focus, even when it's already correctly focused. I haven't tried to accurately time it, but I'd estimate it takes a little over a second to focus-lock. The Mark II is quick, however, compared to the non-SWD Olympus 50-200mm f2.3-3.5, which goes through a 6-step ratcheting process to achieve focus-lock (on the G2 that is, since it can't auto-focus on the GH1).

In contrast to the Oly lenses, the Lumix 45-200mm f4-5.6 focuses almost instantly with no hunting and barely a sound. If it's already in focus, it will simply flash the focus rectangle without making a focus-lock beep. As far as I can tell, the 45-200mm focuses just as fast on the GH1 as on the G2.

I haven't tried the Panasonic 100-300mm f4-5.6 zoom, mostly because it's heavier and costs twice as much as the 45-200mm. The 300mm reach is also not as useful to me as a 45mm wide end. What makes the 45-200mm uniquely attractive is its compact size and light weight combined with OIS. The Oly 50-200mm f2.8-3.5 is a superb lens, but it's not something I'd want to try to hold steady in my own hands.
Thank you for the summary. I noticed in both the SLRGear and DPReview evaluation of the 14-140 and 45-200 (SLRGear only) the 14-140 had better IQ in the comparable focal ranges. At 200mm the 45-200 was no stellar performer so if a person has the 14-140 I believe they will be happier with it.
TP
 
I noticed in both the SLRGear and DPReview evaluation of the 14-140 and 45-200 (SLRGear only) the 14-140 had better IQ in the comparable focal ranges. At 200mm the 45-200 was no stellar performer so if a person has the 14-140 I believe they will be happier with it.
With Panasonic OIS lenses, I think it depends on your priorities. I found SLRGear's interactive blur index charts very helpful in evaluating both lenses:

14-140mm: http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/zproducts/panasonic14-140f4-58g/tloader.htm
45-200mm: http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/zproducts/panasonic45-200f4-56g/tloader.htm

If you set the chart sliders to about f5.6 and 70mm, you'll see the 45-200mm is generally sharper than the 14-140mm, but falls off in the corners. What stands out for me, however, is that the 14-140mm's widest aperture is already pegged at f5.8 at 70mm, while the 45-200mm can open up to f4.3. The charts show similar results at 100mm and 140mm focal lengths as well. While the 14-140mm is clearly the sharper lens at 45mm, I think it falls short of the 45-200mm lens' sharpness and flexibility at focal lengths above 70mm.
 
With Panasonic OIS lenses, I think it depends on your priorities. I found SLRGear's interactive blur index charts very helpful in evaluating both lenses:

14-140mm: http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/zproducts/panasonic14-140f4-58g/tloader.htm
45-200mm: http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/zproducts/panasonic45-200f4-56g/tloader.htm

If you set the chart sliders to about f5.6 and 70mm, you'll see the 45-200mm is generally sharper than the 14-140mm, but falls off in the corners. What stands out for me, however, is that the 14-140mm's widest aperture is already pegged at f5.8 at 70mm, while the 45-200mm can open up to f4.3. The charts show similar results at 100mm and 140mm focal lengths as well. While the 14-140mm is clearly the sharper lens at 45mm, I think it falls short of the 45-200mm lens' sharpness and flexibility at focal lengths above 70mm.

@lpowell, Thanks for that extra info re sharpness lpowell, how is the usability of the 45-200 in video mode compared to 14-140 as per my post above #2722.

Thanks.
 
I want to share some shots, both 640 iso;
I think the slow motion resolution of this camera is fantastic compared to the Canons' horrible 720p.
The gh2's worst resolution is better than the Canons' best.

Upped to 1080p (quartered for the web):
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...how is the usability of the 45-200 in video mode compared to 14-140?
I no longer have the 14-140mm to do a direct comparison. The 45-200mm lens auto-focuses reliably under good lighting conditions and tracks focus reasonably quickly with slow panning in video takes. It's not a parfocal lens, however, and it will lose focus whenever you zoom during a video. I believe that is the only "HD" feature of the 14-140mm lens that I've noticed lacking in the 45-200mm. Since I don't require stepless aperture or silent lens operation while shooting video, the 45-200mm has worked just as well for me as the 14-140mm did.
 
I want to share some shots, both 640 iso;
I think the slow motion resolution of this camera is fantastic compared to the Canons' horrible 720p.
The gh2's worst resolution is better than the Canons' best.

Upped to 1080p (quartered for the web):
22-2.jpg
<p><p> A beautiful shot. Very Cinema film like. I can't imagine anyone complaining about quality, at least within these parameters.
 
I want to share some shots, both 640 iso;
I think the slow motion resolution of this camera is fantastic compared to the Canons' horrible 720p.
The gh2's worst resolution is better than the Canons' best.

Upped to 1080p (quartered for the web):
22-2.jpg


222.jpg


Very very nice, started to get fed up seeing just test or run and gun 3200 iso whatever shot. Seeing a human being with a good eye for composition and lighting (even if it is only natural one) give me some hope again in this camera. At least with a good eye it can give a very nice image which look very filmic. Hope to see more of this project.
 
Hello Guys,

yesterday 6:00PM (-3GMT) the Amazon released 5 DMC GH2 14-42 Lens Silver. I got the second in the stock. Almost 8:00PM there wasn't no one more in stock, the guys are "hunting" this camera hehehehehehe ;)

Merry Christmas for all....
 
I guess the Gh2 uses the digital shutter to do the 40 FPS Burst . Is it possible to use this "shutter" for long exposures(>1sec)? would be nice for timelapses...
 
I made a couple of quick AF tracking tests with the GH2 the other day, and I thought some of you who have wondered how it works might like to see them.

High school basketball game, GH2, 14-140, ISO 2500. I was shooting stills at ISO6400 and f2.8, but I brought the GH2 along and took a few minutes of video to see how the camera worked in these conditions. I used 24P, 50th sec and ISO2500. I think the 30 fps, or 720/60P would be better for this much motion, but the AF seemed to do a good job, and the video is amazingly clean at ISO 2500.
http://www.vimeo.com/18138884

Running dogs tax an AF system more than any subject I know. I have not tried birds in flight, so that may be a rival, but no human sports even come close to presenting the AF tracking challenge that fast moving dogs present. That said, the greatest difficultly comes when they are running straight at the camera, because their heads are moving all over the frame, and if their eyes are not in focus, the image is unusable. Here there is more lateral movement, but they are still moving toward and away from the camera.
Dogs playing, 720/60P, 14-140 mm, ISO 800,
http://www.vimeo.com/18137872
 
I think that silent focus, silent zoom, autofocus alone are worth it. F isn´t everything :)
I migth be wrong thou :D

No.....you are absolutely correct. To add to that the OIS and the fact that it's a sharp lens are two other things. Let's face it....i don't think a lot of the folks who complain about the kit lens know anything other than what others like to say.....and that is... it's "slow and expensive." So they equate that with "it's a home video lens." What does that even mean? When I compare it to other manufacturers kit lens....it offers a bit more....meaning "both" OIS and AF...and it's wide, long and sharp. It's an outdoor lens. For cinema f 4.0 is where it should be. My only complaint is that it does not give you the option of keeping it at that aperture when you zoom.
 
No.....you are absolutely correct. To add to that the OIS and the fact that it's a sharp lens are two other things. Let's face it....i don't think a lot of the folks who complain about the kit lens know anything other than what others like to say.....and that is... it's "slow and expensive." So they equate that with "it's a home video lens." What does that even mean? When I compare it to other manufacturers kit lens....it offers a bit more....meaning "both" OIS and AF...and it's wide, long and sharp. It's an outdoor lens. For cinema f 4.0 is where it should be. My only complaint is that it does not give you the option of keeping it at that aperture when you zoom.

I'd add the focus ring is a pain. some markings. Not necesarily cine precision, but just some mark.
 
No.....you are absolutely correct. To add to that the OIS and the fact that it's a sharp lens are two other things. Let's face it....i don't think a lot of the folks who complain about the kit lens know anything other than what others like to say.....and that is... it's "slow and expensive." So they equate that with "it's a home video lens." What does that even mean? When I compare it to other manufacturers kit lens....it offers a bit more....meaning "both" OIS and AF...and it's wide, long and sharp. It's an outdoor lens. For cinema f 4.0 is where it should be. My only complaint is that it does not give you the option of keeping it at that aperture when you zoom.
Not being aware of how you use the zoom, I find if f 4.0 is what I need, then using the ETZ within the f 4.0 setting range and swithching between 1080 (for about 2X zoom) and 720 (for about 4+ zoom) somewhat overcomes the limitation.
TP
 
Not being aware of how you use the zoom, I find if f 4.0 is what I need, then using the ETZ within the f 4.0 setting range and swithching between 1080 (for about 2X zoom) and 720 (for about 4+ zoom) somewhat overcomes the limitation.
TP

Ha....I didn't even thiink of that. Good call.
 
With Panasonic OIS lenses, I think it depends on your priorities. I found SLRGear's interactive blur index charts very helpful in evaluating both lenses:

14-140mm: http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/zproducts/panasonic14-140f4-58g/tloader.htm
45-200mm: http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/zproducts/panasonic45-200f4-56g/tloader.htm

If you set the chart sliders to about f5.6 and 70mm, you'll see the 45-200mm is generally sharper than the 14-140mm, but falls off in the corners. What stands out for me, however, is that the 14-140mm's widest aperture is already pegged at f5.8 at 70mm, while the 45-200mm can open up to f4.3. The charts show similar results at 100mm and 140mm focal lengths as well. While the 14-140mm is clearly the sharper lens at 45mm, I think it falls short of the 45-200mm lens' sharpness and flexibility at focal lengths above 70mm.

Good points which I did not miss reviewing the charts. Clearly, either lens performs acceptably within their respective comparable ranges with a slight edge to the 45-200 if that is the primary shooting range. Knowing the sweet spot of each lens at respective focal lengths is the real value of the SLRG/DPR lens reviews. The extra range above 140 available with the 45-200 is a bonus to be sure even if it is not particularly sharp at any of the aperture settings at 200mm. My Olympus 70-300 is definately sharper at 200mm than the 45-200 and does very well from 70-200 but falls short at 300mm as many will attest to. When shooting video at 200mm or above, I personally need to use a tripod no matter which lens used to control wobble etc. which otherwise spoils the video. Using Extended Tele at the long end of the zooms for video really requires use of a tripod in my view.
TP
 
Anyone used the Olympus 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5 ED SWD or Olympus Zuiko Digital ED 12-60mm F2.8-4.0 SWD with the GH2 yet? If so, what was your experience. I assume that using the Olympus MMF-1 adaptor would retain the autofocus and exposure features.
 
Anyone used the Olympus 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5 ED SWD or Olympus Zuiko Digital ED 12-60mm F2.8-4.0 SWD with the GH2 yet? If so, what was your experience. I assume that using the Olympus MMF-1 adaptor would retain the autofocus and exposure features.
Mark,
Can't remember if it was in this forum or the DPReview Micro Four Thirds forum but someone had comments about using both these lenses on either the GH1 or GH2!?
TP
 
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