Gh2 Jello

Micro jitters is a good term. And whenever I go out shooting with a 5D I have to bring a monopod or a small photo tripod along. So when I shoot handheld I just hold the whole tripod and it looks much more stable (on the expense of my own spine)...

Those things are weird, because for instance, I shot a shot last week, a close up of an actor struggling in the dentist chair, and as he would shake in the chair the chair vibrated. The tripod was touching the chair base and the vibration made the image all jittery whenever the actor was suffering harder. That looked incredible! :)

But most of the times, the jitter pisses me off, it just does.
 
taubkin said:
Micro jitters is a good term. And whenever I go out shooting with a 5D I have to bring a monopod or a small photo tripod along. So when I shoot handheld I just hold the whole tripod and it looks much more stable (on the expense of my own spine)...

Those things are weird, because for instance, I shot a shot last week, a close up of an actor struggling in the dentist chair, and as he would shake in the chair the chair vibrated. The tripod was touching the chair base and the vibration made the image all jittery whenever the actor was suffering harder. That looked incredible! :)

But most of the times, the jitter pisses me off, it just does.
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hey, for your handheld shots, buy this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230529213095&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
only 30$ and a lot more back friendly than holding a tripod.. also very comfortable to shoot with..
 
Ian-T said:
Can't find the link at the moment but do a search for Hunter Richards. He posted a quick clip in black&white using this function. Not only did it show "NO" skew in his shakey hand footage....but the grain it produced looked amazingly filmic at higher ISOs. So your assumption seems to be correct.
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Was that the footage that mimicked Tri-X B&W footage? That particular clip was very interesting.

I don't know enough about lenses, but it would also be interesting to have a list of - I presume 16mm-like - useful camera lenses that would create normal/regular shooting in the 1:1 tele mode.

RBG
 
Resting your camera right on your diaphragm does not sound like a good idea to me. Unless you don't breath.
 
Jockomo said:
Resting your camera right on your diaphragm does not sound like a good idea to me. Unless you don't breath.
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i got it today and tested it walking around the house,panning etc.. it's basic but very comfortable (a lot more than holding a tripod )
actually i also put the camera strip around my neck and adjust it to fit, so the camera holds up without the need of holding it tightly.
for 20$ it more than you can ask for.
 
Jesse Brauning said:
I've tried a variety of stabilization plugins, but they never get rid of vertical shake, which looks the worst. The squishy look is just so... horrible!
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Deshaker works VERY well. If you shoot knowing that you will be removing shake then it will work (high shutter speed etc...). As for stabilization. I have found that attaching a table top tripod to the cam and using it as a shoulder rest works well (if you are trying to go low key) and if not the Manfrotto 561BHDV works very well. I can't say enough good things about that monopod.
 
I was put off deshaker because I have never used virtual dub and was worried it all looked a bit technical. Also not clear how the worklow would work with MTS files and premiere pro.

Is it easy enough to use alongside CS5? If not - has anyone tried mercalli? The videos on the website look good.

Kind of annoys me that between premiere pro and after effects they dont really have an inbuilt good deshaking function. It is hell of an expensive package after all - is that not kind of fundamental? I really dont wont to have to shell out another 200 quid for mercalli!
 
You can stabilize really well in AE, but unfortunately the rolling shutter doesn't get fixed as it does in Deshaker. My workflow consists of removing pulldown with the free Virtualdub method so I stabilize with Deshaker as I remove pulldown (all in the same process). After this I can edit away in any NLE I choose.

As I said before, Deshaker works really well but there is a little to learn, but on the upside it is completely free and you can have a lot of control over how it deshakes where a lot of the programs you cannot. I can give anyone a hand if they are having trouble.

EDIT: That being said, I can understand that this method is not for everyone....
 
mojo43 said:
You can stabilize really well in AE,
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Is that right?

I can stabilise shots OK - but only if they have a relatively fixed scene. I have no idea how you can use AE to stabilise a panning shot for example as your tracking point moves off screen.

Will have a look at virtual dub.
 
Guys... I thought the GH1 had the best jello (yummy) of all DSLRs.

Is the GH2 any worse than the GH1?

I'm curious now... Unbased panic is beginning to seize of the situation! :P
 
the doc said:
Is that right?

I can stabilise shots OK - but only if they have a relatively fixed scene. I have no idea how you can use AE to stabilise a panning shot for example as your tracking point moves off screen.

Will have a look at virtual dub.
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In Deshaker you can lock off the horizontal to smooth pans. You would just set the horizontal motion smoothness to -1. I am pretty sure that I have done this in AE as well, but I can't seem to remember how I did it. I will check on it though...
 
Would appreciate it mojo.

I partly stabilised a pan shot in AE by limiting the stabilisation only to the Y axis. But this still leaves the problem of how do you do the stabilisation tracking when your tracking point keeps moving with the pan? You just end up with your whole video moving out of the screen area (does that make sense?)
 
Stabilization i can do. Jello-removal I cannot. I've not tried anything related to virtualdub. I've installed it a few times, looked at it a bit, and backed away screaming in terror. I'm a nerd, but not THAT much of a nerd, thankyouvermuch. :)
I've tried demos of all the commercial rolling shutter plugins I can find, but they only fix horizontal skew. They do nothing for vertical skewing. If there was one that handled both, I'd snap it up.
 
Jesse Brauning said:
Stabilization i can do. Jello-removal I cannot. I've not tried anything related to virtualdub. I've installed it a few times, looked at it a bit, and backed away screaming in terror. I'm a nerd, but not THAT much of a nerd, thankyouvermuch. :)
I've tried demos of all the commercial rolling shutter plugins I can find, but they only fix horizontal skew. They do nothing for vertical skewing. If there was one that handled both, I'd snap it up.
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Give Mercalli V2 a try - free trial - I've downloaded, but no time to test right now - looks promising:

http://www.prodad.com/home/products/videostabilizing/300391667,l-us.xhtml

Review here: http://www.eventdv.net/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=69800

Video tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uajXCD34Hok
 
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