ChuckS
Veteran
At the risk of being accused of trolling, I would like to mention something about a recent thread that was, thankfully, locked.
I have been coming to this site since the very early days of the DVX100 and have less than 1500 posts. So I don't jump in on that many issues and when I do I try to be supportive whenever possible.
What attracted me to this site was a real sense of community more about independent film making , I miss that. I'm not saying it doesn't exist now nor am I saying that there weren't nauseating technical debates in the early days, but it does seem that much of the debate is about ones and zeros and not about film making. And if that's how everyone wants to continue, I guess there's not much I can do about that.
However, I would like to point out a couple of things. The fact is that many of the people asking questions about the 7D don't even own one, if they did and used them there would be a lot more samples posted in the 7D Footage/Stills thread. Also most of the people shooting with DSLRs do not have access to a Red. So debating which technology is better is pointless.
BUT!!!, an aspect I love about shooting HD with DSLRs is that if you want to produce good HD video with one you pretty much have to shoot in manual, it forces you to think about and decide the right lens for the right focal plane, you really have to figure out how to get the proper exposure and how to work within its limitations, some of which aren't even apparent to many of the users because they haven't run across them yet themselves. So to my way of thinking DSLRs are a great step in the right direction to using a Red or F35 [for example]. Even if the Red comes with a DP any experience with a DSLR will translate to a more intelligent conversation between you and the DP hopefully saving time and money.
So I suggest spending less time debating the technology and more time debating technique. Why is it that there are so many technical questions but so few samples of peoples work and even fewer critiques of those samples? Not only do we all learn by doing and receiving feedback but there's a lot to be learned from providing the feedback. Context in this regard is important, I am always amazed at how good some of the Wedding Videographers are who generally have less than a day to produce it, one shot at it and they might do two or three in a weekend. There are several people like me, who shoot everything by themselves and don't have the resources or maybe even the experience to shoot a narrative so they shoot things that they're passionate about, post the results looking for feedback.
I would more than welcome anyone who reviewed something I produced and offered to write a narrative or produce a different piece of music for it etc.. I would like to get a lot better at producing and to develop relationships on this forum that would help me accomplish that. Are there ways we can come together as a community to collaborate, to support each other rather than be overly critical?
For anyone who has read this far, thanks for indulging me. Maybe I'm hoping for something that just isn't possible, maybe it's there and I just don't recognize it, I don't know. But I seem to remember a time when we would clammer over any DVX footage we could get and for the most part were respectful and appreciative of each others efforts.
:love4:
I have been coming to this site since the very early days of the DVX100 and have less than 1500 posts. So I don't jump in on that many issues and when I do I try to be supportive whenever possible.
What attracted me to this site was a real sense of community more about independent film making , I miss that. I'm not saying it doesn't exist now nor am I saying that there weren't nauseating technical debates in the early days, but it does seem that much of the debate is about ones and zeros and not about film making. And if that's how everyone wants to continue, I guess there's not much I can do about that.
However, I would like to point out a couple of things. The fact is that many of the people asking questions about the 7D don't even own one, if they did and used them there would be a lot more samples posted in the 7D Footage/Stills thread. Also most of the people shooting with DSLRs do not have access to a Red. So debating which technology is better is pointless.
BUT!!!, an aspect I love about shooting HD with DSLRs is that if you want to produce good HD video with one you pretty much have to shoot in manual, it forces you to think about and decide the right lens for the right focal plane, you really have to figure out how to get the proper exposure and how to work within its limitations, some of which aren't even apparent to many of the users because they haven't run across them yet themselves. So to my way of thinking DSLRs are a great step in the right direction to using a Red or F35 [for example]. Even if the Red comes with a DP any experience with a DSLR will translate to a more intelligent conversation between you and the DP hopefully saving time and money.
So I suggest spending less time debating the technology and more time debating technique. Why is it that there are so many technical questions but so few samples of peoples work and even fewer critiques of those samples? Not only do we all learn by doing and receiving feedback but there's a lot to be learned from providing the feedback. Context in this regard is important, I am always amazed at how good some of the Wedding Videographers are who generally have less than a day to produce it, one shot at it and they might do two or three in a weekend. There are several people like me, who shoot everything by themselves and don't have the resources or maybe even the experience to shoot a narrative so they shoot things that they're passionate about, post the results looking for feedback.
I would more than welcome anyone who reviewed something I produced and offered to write a narrative or produce a different piece of music for it etc.. I would like to get a lot better at producing and to develop relationships on this forum that would help me accomplish that. Are there ways we can come together as a community to collaborate, to support each other rather than be overly critical?
For anyone who has read this far, thanks for indulging me. Maybe I'm hoping for something that just isn't possible, maybe it's there and I just don't recognize it, I don't know. But I seem to remember a time when we would clammer over any DVX footage we could get and for the most part were respectful and appreciative of each others efforts.
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