Genesis camera from Sony/Panavision

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But you can only rent from Panavision.  Plus my guess the rental is going to be the price of the VIper and Dalsa (bad spelling).  I think the Dalsha is $3.000 a day.  Not sure if they'll give you a three week.  Also the storage cost on the Dalsa you might as well shoot film.

But it does mean that they're slowly gettin there.
 
Re: Genesis camera from Sony/Panavision

[quote author=Gary_McClurg link=board=nws;num=1095584457;start=0#1 date=09/19/04 at 10:58:02]But you can only rent from Panavision. Plus my guess the rental is going to be the price of the VIper and Dalsa (bad spelling). I think the Dalsha is $3.000 a day. Not sure if they'll give you a three week. Also the storage cost on the Dalsa you might as well shoot film.

But it does mean that they're slowly gettin there.[/quote]

Yeah, they are getting there. Considering that it is a 12 MegaPixel camera, and 4:4:4, then it is pretty close.
 
Re: Genesis camera from Sony/Panavision

companies, in my humble opinion...need to stop wasting their time with useless ideas...now dont get me wrong, im not saying that CAMERA is bad tech, but the fact that the external deck is designed to seem like a mag for film is kind've pointless

id much rather see that assembly in a nice, single piece form-factor with interchangeable lenses (obviously)

the xl camera series from canon is a good example...i LOVE how the DVX fits everything except interchangeable lenses in a small form factor. For run and gun sports shooting, id rather my panasonic over the xl1s/xl2 anyday
 
Panavision Genesis Camera PRICE???

Panavision Genesis Camera PRICE???

What does the Panavison Genesis Camera System cost anyway? Can you buy the camera outright? If so, for how much? If you can't, than what does it rent for? Anybody know? I know that they used 8 to 11 of them on Superman Returns. I wonder what that cost!

Also, what format sizes does the camera shoot? 720P, 1080P or both? Or can it do more than that?
 
Panavision has never sold their cameras. Since their inception, Panavision has been a manufacturer and rental house. I don't think they even sell off their huge inventory of "Panavised" cameras, which are usually re-tooled to accept their lenses and accessories.

Genesis uses single imager technology (in their case, RGB, not CMOS), so it is very much like RED in that respect.

Panavision chose to co-develop their single imager technology because it greatly simplifies the overall system and, of course, allows easier integration with their unmatched spherical lenses.

RED, like Genesis and the Arriflex D20 all use "external magazines" of one type or another.

Genesis "gates" its 12.4 megapixel data at 4:4:4 to 1920x1080 HDCamSR - the only tape format that offered uncompressed on-board recording at the time it was developed over four years ago.

Panavision realized early on that operating via a tether to an external recorder was a compromise that most cinematographers coming from 35mm production would not accept (though this can also be done via dual-linking for extended in-studio recording).

Panavision, unlike the others, was smart enough to also make it a wireless "hotshoe" style connection. So, from a resolution standpoint, Genesis might be delivering (because of the HDCamSR resolution limitations only) less than RED, but everything up to the magazine (which can easily change) was and is quite revolutionary.

I might have a little bias, but I'm still...

:beer:

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I meant no pre-filtering at 4:4:4 (which is indeed compressed at roughly 4.2:1, no audio compression over 12 distinct channels @ 24 bit) - my bad.

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Panavision Camera Is Better than Red

Panavision Camera Is Better than Red

The Red camera gives you a bigger picture and more frame rates, however the way the footage is managed is still chaotic. Here's a list of features the Panavision Genesis camera has been used for as of late... which is a good indicator it's the better choice.

As of the fall of 2007, Genesis features include: Superman Returns, Flyboys, La Maison du Bonheur, Click, Scary Movie 4, Déjà Vu, Apocalypto, Reign O’er Me, The Tiger’s Tail, Grind House, Lookout, Next, The Ferryman, Balls of Fury, Condemned, Slipstream, Asterix 3, Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead, His Majesty Minor, I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry, How About You, Superbad, I Know Who Killed Me, The Comebacks, 21, Le Deuxième Souffle, Tourist, Snow Buddies, Walk Hard, Addicted, Enfin Veuve, La Jeune Fille et les Loups, Get Smart, Taken, Disco, Christmas in Wonderland, The King of Kung Fu, The Heavy, Finder T.A.T.U, The Rocker and The Other Boleyn Girl.
 
I read an article on this somewhere and the big pro they gave this camera is the "legendary" Panavision glass.

I know nothing about Panavision but would imagine their glass would be the best of the best, considering where it's used.
 
craigjharris said:
The Red camera gives you a bigger picture and more frame rates, however the way the footage is managed is still chaotic. Here's a list of features the Panavision Genesis camera has been used for as of late... which is a good indicator it's the better choice.
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According to this logic an old Mitchell 35mm camera from the 30s and 40s should be your choice over the genesis because its been used on more movies. Its a completely inane line of reasoning.
 
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