Game changing stabilizing device?

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hunter richards said:
That's a cool set up, pretty expensive but looks like its doing the job well. I've been shooting handheld with gyros for a while and then adding warp stabilizer in post to get similar effects and shots (I have a ks-4) but its only for mos shots because of the noise it makes- would love to try this out with my rollerblades on : )
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I thought of you when I saw the dude with the blades on. I was like "ohhhhh Hunter would love that."

haha
 
Guys, you rent it - like for a day - when you have a shot that calls for it...

And again, prices of products are not just based on the component cost for a system.
 
I think this thing looks amazing!

However revolutionary, not. It won't be an every shot thing for most productions, in my opinion.

- Yet to see how much weight it can take. A friend of mine on facebook said "Probably won't work with the F65" hahaha! For that matter, probably not a full Alexa, F35, Film camera, etc. I'm even wondering if RedOnes would work? We like our cameras with hefty cinema glass, matteboxes, and etc. That said, I strip down cameras for specialty shots all the time! Taping filters to bare lenses, going bare bones. So I think this looks like a specialty shot device. Like the steadicam, which will surely loose some jobs to this. Seems all those guys might want to consider jumping in line for this and learning it quick! Seems having/knowing both is a good way to protect your lively hood. I see advantages and disadvantages for both systems.

- Seems you have to hire two people, no? I guess maybe if the normal operator actually moves the unit (how much learned skill do you need for that?) and the specialized pro (like steadicam would be or a techno-operator) would do the complicated bits? From a production point of view, renting this device and the operator that comes with it, isn't going to revolutionize their budget, and that is what they care about. Now who knows. Just a point

- Won't replace a dolly! Sure if you are a poor production and you can somehow afford this but not a dolly, something might be wrong. I guess if stealing shots, it would be a bonus. But people say the steadi cam replaced the dolly when it did nothing of the sort! The 'feel' of a solid dolly move and the feel of steadicam/handheld/this bugger is not the same. One is dreamy smooth, the other is grounded observational smooth. You can't replace aesthetics of a dolly. Maybe the operator can pull off a so steadi, it could be dolly shot, I see steadicam moves do that at times, but you know when it's a steadicam (or this thing) more times than not. Quickly dismissing sliders and real dolly systems is ignoring the importance of HOW a camera moves.


That said, this looks like an amazing tool to get inside places a steadicam can't. How tiring is it to operate? Soon enough I expect to see an 'EasyRig' with that on the end! Looks back breaking if operating for awhile. Maybe not. I must say, I was expecting a dud-announcement and this surpassed my expectations. Didn't think it was going to be revolutionary, but I didn't see it being as different and effective of an idea as it turned out to be.
 
c3hammer said:
I don't know, I could do that whole thing with my new stabilizer design and a Sony Action Cam or GoPro. It would even have the grainy washed out look perfectly :)

Seriously, though that thing is pretty amazing. I know some guys that have been doing the exact same thing mounted on blimps for a number of years now. Those systems are upwards of $30k though. They do all the aerial work for the Travis Pastrana Nitro Circus movies.

To bring something like that down to a hand held rig is pretty cool.

Cheers,
Pete
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I agree it's cool for the expensive piece of gear it is, and what you said about Go Pros, etc...I've been saying similar in the other threads. To get those kinds of shots with a DSLR or large sensor camera is awesome, but if one doesn't have that budget...a much simpler way to achieve them is with a small high end camcorder with super OIS on a very basic stabilizer..they are already way smoother, always in focus...and super light.
 
I'll try to be 2nd, im not that cutting edge. For real though, this thing has to be loud right with all the servos? Probably not coincidence all the videos I've seen have no live audio track?
 
As long as you only sacrifice a 5D it's all good.

If it's noisy that rules it out for me, I loath ADR.
 
hunter richards said:
I'll try to be 2nd, im not that cutting edge. For real though, this thing has to be loud right with all the servos? Probably not coincidence all the videos I've seen have no live audio track?
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Yeah, that is my main concern. That is what I like about steadicam, no noise.
 
i look at that video - and i must say its great solution, carazy expansive, but is great! But what i dont understand is how do they focus? they hold cam with both hands - is there a 2nd person who does it wireless? how does it happen? i dont understand!
 
Am I the only one a bit annoyed that the taxi cab shot in the short does not match the behind the scenes footage? Seems a bit less than honest....
 
"division of labour" = one guy to hold the movi, one to control the frame and does he pull focus too or is that for a third guy?
 
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